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Texas State Senator Blasts Perry For Secessionist Talk
Nickolas.com ^ | Apr 16, 2009 | by Mark Nickolas

Posted on 04/16/2009 4:04:45 PM PDT by meandog

Today, Texas State Sen. Rodney Ellis (D) rightly condemned his state's very fringe Gov. Rick Perry (R-TX) for his unconstitutional and outrageously dishonest rant about Texas secession:

"There are some issues that simply should not be legitimized in any way, shape or form, and secession is one of them," said Ellis. "By not rejecting out of hand the possibility of secession, Governor Perry is taking a step down a very dangerous and divisive path encouraged by the fringe of Texas politics.

"It was only 12 years ago that Texas had a deadly stand-off with those urging secession. Governor Bush stood up to those fringe elements. I urge Governor Perry to ramp down the rhetoric and state unequivocally -- as Governor Bush did in the 1990s -- that secession is not only not an option, it isn't going to be part of the political discussion.

Indeed, not only was Perry shamefully dishonest about Texas having left open the ability to secede after it joined the union in 1845 (the agreement was that it could split into five states, not leave), but the U.S. Supreme Court handled this very issue back in 1869 in the matter of Texas v. White when it made clear that unilateral secession is unconstitutional.

Though, as I've said before, with the exception of the great city of Austin, I wouldn't shed many tears to see Texas leave. If they did, the Republican Party would not win another presidential election in my lifetime, it would ensure an even more Democratic-controlled U.S. Senate and House, and we'd solve about half of the challenge of our Mexico border problems.

(Excerpt) Read more at politicalbase.com ...


TOPICS: Extended News; Government; News/Current Events; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: perry; roteny; secession
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"Governor Bush stood up to those fringe elements!"

He also began the bailouts...

1 posted on 04/16/2009 4:04:45 PM PDT by meandog
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To: meandog

Calling all Bushbots...


2 posted on 04/16/2009 4:05:24 PM PDT by meandog (There are bad no dogs, only bad owners--the only good bad owner is one mauled by a good bad dog!)
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To: meandog

I’d love to secede from ObamaNation.


3 posted on 04/16/2009 4:06:22 PM PDT by Argus (We've gone downtown to Clown Town, and that's where we'll be living from now on..)
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To: meandog

What part of Texas is Rodney Ellis from? DC, Boston, New York, San Francisco, or Seattle?


4 posted on 04/16/2009 4:06:54 PM PDT by pnh102 (Save America - Ban Ethanol Now!)
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To: meandog

Today, Perry said that Texas should stay in the Union.


5 posted on 04/16/2009 4:07:27 PM PDT by trumandogz (The Democrats are driving us to Socialism at I00 MPH -The GOP is driving us to Socialism at 97.5 MPH)
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To: meandog

Perry actually leans too moderate... he ain’t fringe. These people know that, they are just blowing steam for the media


6 posted on 04/16/2009 4:07:57 PM PDT by GeronL (TYRANNY SENTINEL. http://tyrannysentinel.blogspot.com)
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To: GeronL

I personally think secession is wrong. The correct approach is to kick liberals out.


7 posted on 04/16/2009 4:10:36 PM PDT by bitterohiogunclinger (America held hostage - day 163)
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To: meandog
Today, Texas State Sen. Rodney Ellis (D) rightly condemned his state's very fringe Gov. Rick Perry (R-TX) for his unconstitutional and outrageously dishonest rant about Texas secession:

Apparently the author is far too busy to bother himself to look up the Texas State Constitution Article 1, Sections 1 and 2; which explictly state that Texas does IN FACT reserve the right to leave the USA at will. Further, Texas can divide itself into 5 seperate states (at will) and the USA explictily does not get a voice in that decision. This is a benefit that Texas drove when the USA asked Texas to join the United States. Texas agreed, upon conditions laid out in their state constitution.

But, you know how liberals and education mix about as well as oil and water.

8 posted on 04/16/2009 4:10:37 PM PDT by Hodar (Who needs laws .... when this "feels" so right?)
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Today, Perry said that Texas should stay in the Union.

Ptobably because "Mission Accomplished" and "Read My Lips" called up in tandem to read him the riot act!

9 posted on 04/16/2009 4:11:49 PM PDT by meandog (There are bad no dogs, only bad owners--the only good bad owner is one mauled by a good bad dog!)
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“If they did, the Republican Party would not win another presidential election in my lifetime”

Well, they haven’t won the past two elections, the GOP leadership currently has no balls, and, if they don’t get back to conservatism, they won’t win another election.

But, if Texas seceded and all of us conservatives left the USSA, what would we care?

While the USSA goes straight to hell under the tyranny of Comrade Barack Obama, we conservatives in Texas would be living in prosperity and freedom.


10 posted on 04/16/2009 4:13:20 PM PDT by wk4bush2004 (SARAH PALIN, 2012!!!!!!!)
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To: meandog
Pretty tough talk from the party that ran to New Mexico and Oklahoma because they weren't getting their way.
12 posted on 04/16/2009 4:14:02 PM PDT by txroadkill (Tax Day Tea Parties 4/15/09 - - The day we won one for the Gipper.)
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Texas State Sen. Rodney Ellis (D) rightly condemned his state's very fringe Gov. Rick Perry (R-TX)

Not just "fringe", but "very fringe"... Soon comedians will find themselves out of job due to heavy competition from the democratic politicians.
13 posted on 04/16/2009 4:14:27 PM PDT by alecqss
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Today, Texas State Sen. Rodney Ellis (D) rightly condemned his state's very fringe Gov. Rick Perry (R-TX) for his unconstitutional and outrageously dishonest rant about Texas secession

who is this Ellis fruitcup?????

14 posted on 04/16/2009 4:14:36 PM PDT by Vaquero ("an armed society is a polite society" Robert A. Heinlein)
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To: meandog

Great Post.


15 posted on 04/16/2009 4:15:29 PM PDT by trumandogz (The Democrats are driving us to Socialism at I00 MPH -The GOP is driving us to Socialism at 97.5 MPH)
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To: meandog

The only way to settle this is for the rest of the nation to secede from Texas. But, of course, then I’ll be moving to the Lone Star Republic! Go TEXAS!!


16 posted on 04/16/2009 4:16:12 PM PDT by Jim Robinson
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To: meandog
How does this nitwit figure "unconstitutional" in what Perry said?
17 posted on 04/16/2009 4:16:39 PM PDT by SaveTheChief (Obama lied, America died.)
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"It was only 12 years ago that Texas had a deadly stand-off with those urging secession"

Are they refering to Waco?

18 posted on 04/16/2009 4:17:46 PM PDT by guitarplayer1953 (Psalm 83:1-8 is on the horizon.)
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To: pnh102

The worst part.

Actually it’s debatable between and scumbag Royce “Joyce” West


19 posted on 04/16/2009 4:18:03 PM PDT by A_Former_Democrat
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To: Hodar

We could keep the same map. And divide into 5 states and get 10 senators from Texas? The Dems would pop a critical vessel.


20 posted on 04/16/2009 4:18:26 PM PDT by DesertRhino (Dogs earn the title of "man's best friend", Muslims hate dogs,,add that up.)
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