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Group urges FCC to open AT&T's 3G to Skype on iPhone
Computer World Online ^ | 04/03/09 | Computerworld

Posted on 04/03/2009 1:45:05 PM PDT by msrngtp2002

April 3, 2009 (Computerworld) An advocacy group today asked the Federal Communications Commission to decide whether AT&T Inc. and Apple Inc. have broken federal rules by blocking iPhone owners from using the recently released Skype voice-over-Internet service on AT&T's 3G wireless network.

"If you look at the consumer rights [spelled out] in the FCC's Internet Policy Statement, there is a chance that they might be violation by this practice," said Chris Riley, the policy counsel for Free Press, a Washington-based media reform group.

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So to paraphrase this...

And if AT&T is trying to block competitors, I think that that's a scary, anti-competitive move. They're trying to use their network to prevent competition.

Exactly WHAT would you expect a well run corporation to do with THEIR network? Make it available for free to competitors? That's pure insanity.

I own a small, regional fiber optic network and you can bet a dime to a dollar that I use my network to block competitors. Unless and until the FCC buys my network it will never be open to competitors - I paid for it, it is mine, they can't use it.

1 posted on 04/03/2009 1:45:06 PM PDT by msrngtp2002
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To: msrngtp2002

AT&T sucks, period.
I wish Apple chose to not limit itself on the GSM/GPRS contract, there is a major CDMA market out there.


2 posted on 04/03/2009 1:48:22 PM PDT by mnehring
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To: msrngtp2002
Exactly WHAT would you expect a well run corporation to do with THEIR network?

Yeah, but this was about AT&T.

3 posted on 04/03/2009 1:50:05 PM PDT by Knitebane (Happily Microsoft free since 1999.)
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To: msrngtp2002

I’m confused why you would use Skype on a cell phone. Sounds counterproductive to me. Why not just use the cell phone to make the call?


4 posted on 04/03/2009 1:50:45 PM PDT by Domandred (Hope is the first step on the road to disappointment.)
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To: msrngtp2002

How much of your private network was built using the power of the government to force people to allow you to have right of way access?


5 posted on 04/03/2009 1:54:22 PM PDT by DevNet (What's past is prologue)
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To: Domandred
Why not just use the cell phone to make the call?

I don't know what the AT&T contracts are like, but the customer might have a limited number of phone calls but unlimited data usage.

6 posted on 04/03/2009 1:55:14 PM PDT by KarlInOhio (Obama: removing the speed limit on the Road to Serfdom)
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To: msrngtp2002
I own a small, regional fiber optic network and you can bet a dime to a dollar that I use my network to block competitors.

Do you make it quite clear to your customers that you limit what bits they can send and to whom? Or do you just block sites silently or degrade certain internet packets to interfer with your customer's data stream?

7 posted on 04/03/2009 1:57:52 PM PDT by KarlInOhio (Obama: removing the speed limit on the Road to Serfdom)
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To: Domandred

As I understand it, you can hook up to wireless networks on the more expensive cellphones such as the IPOD. No need for a cellular plan if you travel from network to network.

In addition,”AT&T’s 3G wireless network” You wouldn’t be charged for minutes or other features that Skype would offer that would be covered by the AT&T’s limited contract.


8 posted on 04/03/2009 1:57:58 PM PDT by Porterville ( I have come here to chew bubblegum and kick ass... and I'm all out of bubblegum)
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To: Domandred

As I understand it, you can hook up to wireless networks on the more expensive cellphones such as the IPOD. No need for a cellular plan if you travel from network to network.

In addition,”AT&T’s 3G wireless network” You wouldn’t be charged for minutes or other features that Skype would offer that would be covered by the AT&T’s limited contract.


9 posted on 04/03/2009 1:57:58 PM PDT by Porterville ( I have come here to chew bubblegum and kick ass... and I'm all out of bubblegum)
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To: msrngtp2002

I’m not an AT&T fan. With their history, it’s somewhat surprising they would risk anti-competitive behavior. They bought my regional phone company, and bills have been skyrocketing since then. I canceled my cell with them and have thought about losing the landline.


10 posted on 04/03/2009 2:00:44 PM PDT by mysterio
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To: Domandred

iPhones come with unlimited data use, but limited packages of voice minutes. AT&T currently blocks Skype from using their cellular data connection because if they didn’t, all of their iPhone customers would download the free Skype program and make all of their calls over Skype. This would use AT&T’s network resources, but not count against the customer’s allotted calling minutes.

If this were allowed any smart customer would just opt for the cheapest smallest monthly plan and then use Skype for all of their calls.

If the FCC gets involved and forces AT&T to allow Skype over their cellular connections then AT&T will almost certainly stop offering unlimited Internet use and start selling limited packages and/or charging by the kilobyte.


11 posted on 04/03/2009 2:36:18 PM PDT by SelfishCapitalist
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Ah got it. Didn’t realize the iPhones had unlimited data by default. I can get unlimited data through AT&T but would cost me another $30 a month per phone. I’m throwing away rollover minutes every month now cause I don’t talk that much so skype would be a money waster on my phone.


12 posted on 04/03/2009 2:40:50 PM PDT by Domandred (Hope is the first step on the road to disappointment.)
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To: Domandred
I’m confused why you would use Skype on a cell phone. Sounds counterproductive to me. Why not just use the cell phone to make the call?

Because if you use Skype you could just get the cheapest voice plan w/ unlimited data and then talk all day for cheap. That's lost income to ATT plus Skype users use more bandwidth than what is typically used browsing on a phone, which costs ATT money. I'd love to say ATT is wrong here but the 3G buildout isn't cheap, nor is the coming LTE system. Of course when LTE arrives voice plans will be history and all plans will be based on data usage. At that point ATT won't care if you use Skype because you'll be paying for every bit of data you use.

13 posted on 04/03/2009 2:44:09 PM PDT by The Hound Passer
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To: msrngtp2002

Private enterprise doing that they want. Oh Noes!


14 posted on 04/04/2009 2:28:19 AM PDT by Darwin Fish (God invented evolution. Man invented religeon.)
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To: Domandred
Yeah I live in an urban area and bought an iPod 1st gen for 100.00 on craigslist that already has the 2.2 FW, than I bought a Macally ivoice3 mic ($15.00, walmart) because first gens don't have the 3.5mm mic line in, the ivoice3 goes in the dock like the original iPod Griffin memo mic, I pay $2.95 a month and have a free inbound voip number which calls me through fring/grandcentral than I use the new skype for unlimited outbound in the US and Canada, so that's $115.00 out the door no jailbreaks, unlimited data over wifi and unlimited calls for $2.95 a month, i have my wireless router I bought from Clear for 140.00 (40.00 a month) with an unlimited data plan with speeds up to 4mb a second, basically for the price of carrying a small backpack around paying 255.00 upfront and 42.95 a month I use my iPod touch just exactly like a phone fring notifies me even if the app is closed or I can use grand central to have my voice-mails texted to my email, I have a very small low profile bag, it all ways less than 3 lbs and I can drop the services at anytime without fees, that's literally taking a ton of weight off my back, AT&T could charge me $70 a month and 400.00 up front as long as I didn't have to sign a 2yr, but than all you suckers wouldn't know what to do with self sustainability and hyper local permaculture philosophies, or would you? Forget AT&T and big business, skype and clear happen to have my back right now but in a month it could all change, at least I'll be ready. Sorry for any misspellings or bad grammer I'm on my iPod camping out in forest park, Portland OR, it's a beautiful foggy morning, and I'm so happy AT&T isn't involved with it at all, rock on FCC! Let's create some more jobs, At&t can keep the clientele that don't want to enable themselves and save 100’s a month, between my lack of phone and cable bill because of my setup I am healthier and free. wow that mobile spell checker plug in on your blog here is great where do I get that one.
15 posted on 04/04/2009 8:55:14 AM PDT by Gizmopunk (iPod touch skype cheap)
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