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What kind of president thrives on chaos?
American Thinker ^ | March 25, 2009 | James Lewis

Posted on 03/24/2009 11:47:08 PM PDT by neverdem

Is it conceivable that a president would want matters to get worse?

Lincoln did not pray for a Civil War to befall the country to make him look good; just the opposite. Washington and the Founders did not want the Revolutionary War.  FDR did not actually want to worsen the Great Depression, though he ended up doing just that according to some economic historians.

To be sure, New Deal Democrats deliberately parlayed economic crisis into political opportunities. FDR's sidekick Harry Hopkins never stopped trying to "Tax and tax, spend and spend, elect and elect." The Hopkins formula kept the Democrats in control of Congress for forty years, and now they are trying it again with a trillion-dollar Harry Hopkins Memorial Act. Even European socialists are aghast at our gluttonous Democrats.

Needless to say, the Hopkins formula led to decades of stupid and destructive social policies, devastating Black families that had managed to stay together during the worst years of Dixiecrat oppression in the South, corroding our inner city schools, popularizing abortion and divorce, rationalizing hedonism and drugs, undermining the work ethic, setting women against men, the poor against the rich, illegals against citizens, and phony liberal pacifists against American national security. The Left sprinkles poison seeds wherever it goes -- which is why even Vladimir Putin (!!) just advised us not take the Marxist road to ruin, like Russia did. Imagine that.

What's the actual evidence that Obama is trying to make things worse? At this point, it can only be inferred from his actions and statements. Outright proof of sabotage would trigger a political earthquake. Imagine a White House insider leaking Blackberry emails between Obama and Axelrod about how to make the economic crisis last longer. Imagine evidence coming to light that the five-hour electronic assault on the financial markets on September 17, 2008, was timed to elect Obama. Imagine Rahm Emanuel actually advising the President in a concrete policy discussion, "Never let a crisis go to waste!"

I'm not claiming it's true. It's a question.

Andrew McCarthy of National Review Online seems to be arguing a similar case:

"... the more (investment) value the Obama administration and the Democrat Congress destroy - their demagoguery and fiscally insane policies eviscerating the very tax base needed to pay for their exploding liabilities - the more control they get."  (italics added)  

Here are some relevant facts.

1. Never waste a crisis.

The most cited evidence is Rahm Emanuel's line to never waste a crisis. But it doesn't mean you want to create or prolong a crisis. Lenin famously hoped for things to get worse, so that his revolution would be the only answer in the minds of the people. It is a typical revenge fantasy of out-of-power ideologues, but it is quite another thing to put that revenge fantasy into practice. There is a difference between rage and sabotage.

2. The O budget. 

Nobody knows how many trillions of dollars of money are going to have to be created by the Federal Reserve to buy Treasury obligations, because the Chinese have signaled they're not interested in being repaid in devalued dollars, and are questioning the dollar as a reserve currency. Loss of reserve currency status would substantially weaken United States power.

That is either gross stupidity or actual sabotage. Which is it?

3. Inappropriate giggling.

Even the media are noticing: There is something weird about all the fun this administration is having in a time of national crisis. On Sixty Minutes this week, according to The Politico:

"President Barack Obama said he believes the global financial system remains at risk of implosion with the failure of Citigroup or AIG, which could touch off "an even more destructive recession and potentially depression."

"His remarks came in a"60 Minutes" interview in which he was pressed by Steve Kroft for laughing and chuckling several times while discussing the perilous state of the world's economy."

"You're sitting here. And you're- you are laughing. You are laughing about some of these problems. Are people going to look at this and say, ‘I mean, he's sitting there just making jokes about money-' How do you deal with- I mean: explain. . ." Kroft asked at one point."Are you punch-drunk?"

When the lefty media start noticing grossly inappropriate behavior you know you're in trouble. 

The odd laughter did not seem to be a nervous giggle, but rather laughter of someone who sees an irony he knows others won't appreciate, because they don't see the larger game at hand. If they only knew.... If he wants chaos, and all the media and public concern over job losses is beside the point. He is succeeding. They don't get it, but he does.

4. Spreading alarm and scapegoating during a crisis of confidence.

"... Obama made clear that he's afraid the nation hasn't seen the worst of the economic crisis. He said the recession deepened faster than he expected, particularly in terms of job losses." Obama also cited Wall Street's high-risk, high-reward culture as a main cause of the economic meltdown. He took aim at traders and executives in personal terms-saying they need to leave New York for North Dakota or Iowa to appreciate how out-of-whack their pay looks to the average American.

"I mean there were a whole bunch of folks who, on paper, if you looked at quarterly reports, were wildly successful, selling derivatives that turned out to be. . .completely worthless," Obama said, with a chuckle.

I don't know what else to call this, but there is something badly wrong with the tone of Barak Obama going on the Tonight Show to trade gags with Jay Leno, when the market value of American investments has been cut in half. Or calling for "a new era of responsibility" after passing the most grossly irresponsible piece of piggery in American history. Those things are either deeply cynical and malevolent, or deeply out of touch with reality. Either one is bad news for the country.

5. Incompetence or worse in foreign affairs.

"We hope we don't regret our trust in the United States," Polish Foreign Minister Radoslaw Sikorski said at the Brussels Forum conference to an audience of senior world politicians and experts." He was talking about Obama waffling about the missile shield the US promised to install in Eastern Europe, to defend against Iranian, and if necessary against Russian missiles. The Poles have a history of being betrayed by the West in World War Two and the Cold War. They see a militant Russia again, and Europe is being pathetic. No wonder they are afraid.


"I am afraid Russian generals and even the Russian president continue to threaten us with the deployment of medium-range missiles," Sikorski said. 

The US rep naturally pooh-poohed all those fears.

We'll see what happens.

I don't think we have proof -- yet -- of outright sabotage at the very top. We do have reason to worry.

The time to rein in this administration is right now: All House members are running for re-election, and a third of the Senate. They are raising money and making plans. Democrats are seeing the Obama glamour wearing off so fast that they are getting that terrible sinking feeling: Uh-oh, the Messiah is in trouble.  Americans are not helpless against this president, and conservatives should be working to support the best candidates for Congress at this very moment.


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1 posted on 03/24/2009 11:47:09 PM PDT by neverdem
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To: neverdem
"What kind of president thrives on chaos?"

...Obamazilla

2 posted on 03/24/2009 11:51:22 PM PDT by HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity
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To: neverdem

Those were honorable men, The One is not ... that’s the difference.


3 posted on 03/24/2009 11:52:44 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (In honor of my late father-Gysgt/Comm. Chief, USMC WWII, Korea 1925-2002)
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To: neverdem
He wants the government to reign supreme. To do that, he has to first bankrupt the country...then all will have to come to the government for their needs.
4 posted on 03/24/2009 11:52:57 PM PDT by stylin19a (Obama - the ethical exception asterisk administration)
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To: stylin19a

Welcome to the New World Order.
Turns out the NWO is Obammunism.


5 posted on 03/24/2009 11:59:50 PM PDT by HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity
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To: stylin19a

bump 4 later


6 posted on 03/25/2009 12:03:55 AM PDT by prophetic (God, let 0Bama and his evil plans for this country fail & let him be utterly disgraced like HAMAN!!)
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To: neverdem

Here’s a thread with a booklet called “The Revolution Was”, written by a conservative in 1938 about the New Deal and FDR. Almost every word is coming true again 70 years later!!

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/929392/posts

An excerpt with regard to Crisis:

Worse outwitted were those who kept trying to make sense of the New Deal from the point of view of all that was implicit in the American scheme, charging it therefore with contradiction, fallacy, economic ignorance, and general incompetence to govern.

But it could not be so embarrassed and all that line was wasted, because, in the first place, it never intended to make that kind of sense.... For what it meant to do [communist revolution] it was from the beginning consistent in principle, resourceful, intelligent, masterly in workmanship, and it made not one mistake.

...Having passed this crisis, the New Deal went on from one problem to another, taking them in the proper order, according to revolutionary technic; and if the handling of one was inconsistent with the handling of another, even to the point of nullity, that was blunder in reverse. The effect was to keep people excited about one thing at a time, and divided, while steadily through all the uproar of outrage and confusion a certain end, held constantly in view, was pursued by main intention.

The end held constantly in view was power.

....At the end of the first year, in his annual message to the Congress, January 4, 1934, President Roosevelt said: “It is to the eternal credit of the American people that this tremendous readjustment of our national life is being accomplished peacefully.”

Peacefully if possible of course.


7 posted on 03/25/2009 12:07:27 AM PDT by 21twelve (Drive Reality out with a pitchfork if you want — it always comes back.)
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To: HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity; LucyT
"What kind of president thrives on chaos?"

find a copy of Solzhenitsyn's 'Lenin in Zurich' Chaos is the necessary ingredient for civil war and civil war is the necessary ingredient for revolution...but first you have to destroy the banking system.

8 posted on 03/25/2009 12:08:27 AM PDT by Fred Nerks (fair dinkum!)
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To: neverdem

What kind of a president thrives in hard times? One who hates America. But then that was part of his campain was it not?

A very evil president. One that was put in power with drunken voters and one that will be removed from power only with bloody ones. Don’t get me wrong, I am not talking civil war, I am talking mass executions of the undesired classes just like all the other Marxist leaders history led them too.

This one is following the same path, and will come to the same end. I weep for my country and the trials she is doomed to go through.


9 posted on 03/25/2009 12:12:20 AM PDT by American in Israel (A wise man's heart directs him to the right, but the foolish mans heart directs him toward the left.)
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To: Fred Nerks
It's in Hegel and all the Illuminati manuals for controlling the masses and manipulating people back and forth from crisis to crisis. The planned crisis. Never "let it go to waste," right?
10 posted on 03/25/2009 12:13:59 AM PDT by HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity
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To: neverdem

“What kind of president thrives on chaos?”

Perhaps one that has had a crisis created for him?

I hope no one believes this puppet is acting alone. Follow the money trail...it should be easy, a lot of tax payer money and retirement accounts have paid for this.


11 posted on 03/25/2009 12:16:52 AM PDT by BlessingsofLiberty
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To: neverdem

BTTT


12 posted on 03/25/2009 12:17:13 AM PDT by Jet Jaguar (Atlas Shrugged Mode: ON)
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To: BlessingsofLiberty; LucyT

““What kind of president thrives on chaos?”

Perhaps one that has had a crisis created for him?

I hope no one believes this puppet is acting alone. Follow the money trail...it should be easy, a lot of tax payer money and retirement accounts have paid for this.”

Well put.


13 posted on 03/25/2009 12:19:35 AM PDT by Jet Jaguar (Atlas Shrugged Mode: ON)
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To: neverdem

don’t forget the proposal to screw non profit charities. That is something that will even turn liberals off. Many of these charities support liberal causes and they are already in big trouble due to the poor economy and even Madoff.


14 posted on 03/25/2009 12:20:09 AM PDT by ari-freedom ( Hail to the Dork!)
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To: Fred Nerks
Good call on Solzhenitsyn's Lenin in Zurich.

The next stage of planned crisis management could be a false flag event. Terror or international crisis in a hotspot. The weakened defenses of the U.S. now might play a role. Very unstable situation with a leftist kook in the White House.

15 posted on 03/25/2009 12:20:15 AM PDT by HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity
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To: HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity

and his wife, Obamarosa.


16 posted on 03/25/2009 12:20:42 AM PDT by ari-freedom ( Hail to the Dork!)
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To: ari-freedom

Madame LaFarge? Such a nice smile.


17 posted on 03/25/2009 12:21:47 AM PDT by HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity
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To: Jet Jaguar

“I hope no one believes this puppet is acting alone. Follow the money trail...it should be easy, a lot of tax payer money and retirement accounts have paid for this.”

...a lot of foreign money also paid for this. Consider who is benefiting from an Obama presidency? Terrorist leaders were the first leaders Obama phoned upon becoming president.


18 posted on 03/25/2009 12:46:28 AM PDT by Seeing More Clearly Now
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To: HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity

hmmm...I’m thinking maybe create a situation that results in massive anti-war demonstrations, get millions of leftists and their idiot followers out on the streets a la France burning cars and destroying property, but just which country is slated to be the fall-guy? Israel maybe? The UN ‘human rights commission’ is right now setting Israel up with accusations of genocide against the ‘people’ of Gaza.

Demonstrations against ‘the Jews’ - where have we heard that before?

The marxists don’t give a d*mn who gets killed or what is destroyed as long as the Chaos is achieved. REVOLUTION!

I can see the UN becoming involved, martial law declared, the Constitution suspended and re-written to suit the goals of the usurper. Kofi Annan will be there to mediate as he did in Kenya!

ACORN, a number of illegals, muslims, various gangs would also be happy to oblige. Hope I’m wrong.


19 posted on 03/25/2009 12:48:05 AM PDT by Fred Nerks (fair dinkum!)
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To: Fred Nerks

They are already directing bus tours of executive homes in Fairfield County, CT, as part of an Alinskyite “act up” street agitation mind control program. Busing in ACORN agitators. How long til that turns violent like Paris street riots? When unemployment soars and inflation hits.


20 posted on 03/25/2009 12:54:26 AM PDT by HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity
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