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Officials confirm Warner fumbled at game's end
NBC Sports ^ | 2/2/09 | Tom Curran

Posted on 02/02/2009 4:02:54 PM PST by TheBigB

(excerpted)... According to NFL VP of Officiating Mike Pereira, the replay official upstairs did see the play clearly.

“We confirmed it was a fumble,” said Pereira. “The replay assistant in the replay booth saw it was clearly a fumble. The ball got knocked loose and was rolling in his hand before it started forward. He has to have total control.”


(Excerpt) Read more at nbcsports.msnbc.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: cardinals; chat; kurtwarner; nfl; sports
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To: Eagles6

It wasn’t easy to see, though. It took replay for me to catch it. The other plays were much easier to spot. I live near Philly, and was hoping for the Steelers-Eagles match. But they couldn’t hold the lead....well, neither did the Steelers, but their offense could do what Philly’s can’t.


161 posted on 02/05/2009 4:10:19 PM PST by Longhair_and_Leather (The new presidential mantra--"Obama let babies die")
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To: Longhair_and_Leather
My point is that neither team can claim a real victory because in the most important game of the year the NFL’s officiating was again horrible. I don't buy the “level playing field” argument either. I didn't give a rat's fanny which team won the game. Football fans lost. Even if the 2008 Steelers were the best team ever they were robbed of a their due because to fans like me their victory will always be tainted. Besides, like Hollywood Henderson once said; “If the Super Bowl is the most important game ever, how come they are going to play another one next year?”
162 posted on 02/05/2009 4:11:28 PM PST by Natural Law
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To: Natural Law

You claim the victories are tainted, yet no commentator I have heard has yet to say, “The Steelers have won a hundred Super Bowls, but they are tainted.” Not even noted Steeler hater Cris Collingsworth. As far as championships, yes, there will always be another. I wasn’t jumping up and down and screaming that night. I would have slept well whether the Steelers won or lost. I’m happy to see my team win, but all things must be seen in proper perspective—it’s just a game, not life. The real important thing is having Jesus as Lord and Savior, and that does give me reason to cheer!


163 posted on 02/05/2009 4:46:43 PM PST by Longhair_and_Leather (The new presidential mantra--"Obama let babies die")
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To: Longhair_and_Leather
" yet no commentator I have heard has yet to say"

I don't need commentators for a football game or a State of the Union address to tell me what I just saw and heard. The commentators are completely reliant upon the charity and good will of the NFL for their livelihoods and therefore have a vested interest in maintaining the "integrity of the game" while staying out of the NFL's doghouse. There are plenty of print journalists and bloggers who have complained about the officiating.

164 posted on 02/05/2009 4:56:33 PM PST by Natural Law
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To: Natural Law

No, you don’t need a commentator. You saw a fact...the Steelers won their sixth Super Bowl...fair and square, like it or not!


165 posted on 02/09/2009 1:00:14 AM PST by Longhair_and_Leather (The new presidential mantra--"Obama let babies die")
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To: Petronski
I don't care what it was, it is not a “historical fact”. It's a judgment call and many people have different judgments on the call. The league ruled it a fumble, so it is, but it was a call that could have gone either way, and many will disagree with the decision. The US winning WWII was a “historical fact”.
166 posted on 02/09/2009 1:08:32 AM PST by Republic of Texas (Socialism Always Fails)
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To: Longhair_and_Leather
"You saw a fact...the Steelers won their sixth Super Bowl...fair and square, like it or not!"

Too bad the 6th is tarnished in the eyes of nearly everyone outside the state of PA.

167 posted on 02/09/2009 7:03:34 AM PST by Natural Law
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To: Petronski

Well the MSM has clearly stated that Obama was elected with a “mandate” so I guess that means it is true!? Aren’t they the ones that get the last word?

But, I digress - at this point there is absolutely NO way the NFL would say that was a bad call. They have lost enough respect due to their officiating in the last two or three years. Can you even imagine the back lash that a “oops” of this magnitude would do to the league. What I am saying is even if it was OBVIOUSLY an incomplete pass, at this point they would have said, “No, it was a fumble.”

I watched the whole game and it was a great game. Had to be one of the top five in the history of the Super Bowl. But, I personally think it was an incomplete pass. I have a DVR and I rewound that picture twenty or thirty times and he looks to have lost the ball, but then re-grasped the ball and hurled it almost ten yards down field. The question is always, is it an empty hand moving forward - NO!

The part that gets me is that they didn’t even go under the hood. I think that would have cleared up or at least made up for 60-70% of the mistakes of the last two or three years - if they had made a effort to ensure it was the right call!


168 posted on 02/09/2009 8:10:19 AM PST by ExTxMarine (For whatsoe'ver their sufferings were before; that change they covet makes them suffer more. -Dryden)
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To: The KG9 Kid

“Anyone who had nothing to lose in yesterday’s game could easily see who the dominating team was all game long.”

I guess you and I were not watching the same game, because I saw a whole bunch of back and forth through out the game. I mean, Pittsburgh owned the first quarter, but the end of third quarter and most of the fourth was owned by Arizona. So anyone who had nothing to lose in the game could easily see that it could have gone either way!


169 posted on 02/09/2009 8:24:49 AM PST by ExTxMarine (For whatsoe'ver their sufferings were before; that change they covet makes them suffer more. -Dryden)
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To: Natural Law

The SEAHAWKS? Are you kidding me, the Seahawks lost that game solidly! There is no doubt the Seahawks lost that game more than the Steelers won it, but please claiming the Steelers didn’t get the win because of it is nonsense.

I suggest you go watch that game again and count the number of times Seahawks receivers dropped passes in their numbers. Trying to claim they lost that game due to ref calls is rediculous.


170 posted on 02/09/2009 8:29:12 AM PST by HamiltonJay
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To: ExTxMarine
Well the MSM has clearly stated that Obama was elected with a “mandate” so I guess that means it is true!?

If you agree with that, I pity you.

...there is absolutely NO way the NFL would say that was a bad call.

Of course they wouldn't say that. It was a good call. They got it right.

I personally think it was an incomplete pass.

And yet it was, is, and will remain, a fumble.

The question is always, is it an empty hand moving forward - NO!

Sorry you couldn't see it.

...if they had made a effort to ensure it was the right call!

Not only did they make an effort to ensure they made the right call, they also made the right call.


It was, is, and always will be, a fumble.

171 posted on 02/09/2009 8:30:18 AM PST by Petronski (For the next few years, Gethsemane will not be marginal. We will know that garden. -- Cdl. Stafford)
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To: Natural Law
Too bad the 6th is tarnished in the eyes of nearly everyone outside the state of PA.

Bzzzt. Wrong again.

172 posted on 02/09/2009 8:31:25 AM PST by Petronski (For the next few years, Gethsemane will not be marginal. We will know that garden. -- Cdl. Stafford)
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To: Petronski

The sixth win isn’t tarnished, but the fifth one is.


173 posted on 02/09/2009 8:32:58 AM PST by SeaHawkFan
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To: Republic of Texas
I don't care what it was, it is not a “historical fact”.

You DO know, don't you, that your denial does not change reality, right?

Look up who won Super Bowl 43, pick any site you want. Check out how the game ended.

It was a fumble. That is a fact. Ten, fifty, a hundred years from now, it will still be a fumble. Historical fact.

174 posted on 02/09/2009 8:34:13 AM PST by Petronski (For the next few years, Gethsemane will not be marginal. We will know that garden. -- Cdl. Stafford)
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To: SeaHawkFan

175 posted on 02/09/2009 8:34:43 AM PST by Petronski (For the next few years, Gethsemane will not be marginal. We will know that garden. -- Cdl. Stafford)
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To: TheBigB

We wuz robbed!


176 posted on 02/09/2009 8:35:11 AM PST by Revolting cat! (Let us prey!)
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To: Petronski

Yes, we ALL read the article and it says (I am paraphrasing): No, the NFL does not have a referee problem. All the calls were perfect - especially the last one in the Super Bowl, which we should have taken a few seconds to review, but we didn’t, so it was the right call, too! See, no problems!

PS-> So if the article stated that Pamela Anderson was a virgin, would that make it so? Just wondering.


177 posted on 02/09/2009 8:35:27 AM PST by ExTxMarine (For whatsoe'ver their sufferings were before; that change they covet makes them suffer more. -Dryden)
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To: SeaHawkFan

Only if you’re a Seahawk fan that just can’t get over it. The calls were legit, the Hawks stunk all game, and have mostly stunk since then. Time to get over it.


178 posted on 02/09/2009 8:36:25 AM PST by razorboy
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To: Natural Law
My point is that neither team can claim a real victory...

Uh, you're half right. The Steelers can claim a real victory because guess what: they won.

179 posted on 02/09/2009 8:36:33 AM PST by Petronski (For the next few years, Gethsemane will not be marginal. We will know that garden. -- Cdl. Stafford)
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To: Irishhighlander
I truly believe for the integrity of the game they needed to review Warner's incomplete pass, whether or not they over turned in the end!

Try to stay on topic.

180 posted on 02/09/2009 8:38:48 AM PST by Petronski (For the next few years, Gethsemane will not be marginal. We will know that garden. -- Cdl. Stafford)
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