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Officials confirm Warner fumbled at game's end
NBC Sports ^ | 2/2/09 | Tom Curran

Posted on 02/02/2009 4:02:54 PM PST by TheBigB

(excerpted)... According to NFL VP of Officiating Mike Pereira, the replay official upstairs did see the play clearly.

“We confirmed it was a fumble,” said Pereira. “The replay assistant in the replay booth saw it was clearly a fumble. The ball got knocked loose and was rolling in his hand before it started forward. He has to have total control.”


(Excerpt) Read more at nbcsports.msnbc.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: cardinals; chat; kurtwarner; nfl; sports
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To: Eagles6
You're a Steeler's fan of course you feel that way. I'm not a Cards fan, but it was close enough to give em another shot, or at least give them the respect to booth review it.

All good calls in XL, LOL! Super Bowl XL is one of the best examples of the NFL referees sticking it to a small market team in favor of a big market team. It was a total joke that should be erased from history, and no I'm not a Seahawks fan.
101 posted on 02/02/2009 5:55:36 PM PST by Jaime2099
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To: Petronski
The game is over. The officials confirmed the call. It's in the article, above.

Is no one reading the article?

Nobody is disputing that the officials made that call. Nobody is disputing that the replay official and the league both confirmed it. Many are disputing whether they were right to do so. Are you incapable of understanding the concept of officials being wrong about something?

102 posted on 02/02/2009 5:57:41 PM PST by xjcsa (And these three remain: change, hope and government. But the greatest of these is government.)
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To: Petronski
This is Vn68s grandson posting this, I am 12 and I am saying that the review booth only reviewed the Warner fumble for 15-20 sec.!!And also during the 100 yard interception return for a touchdown by the Steelers,Larry Fitzgerald was blocked by one of his own players on the sidelines!!The player was a back-up and was paying attention to the Steeler that was returning the interception for a touchdown. So if Fitzgeraled didnt run into that guy,the Steeler would have tackled at the 3-5 yard line,said Sportscenter this morning!!
103 posted on 02/02/2009 6:06:30 PM PST by VNam68
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To: Jaime2099
Hey, I think it was close, I thought it was an incomplete pass until I saw the slow mo replay but you don't cheat one team because it was close, it was clearly a fumble and there has to be overwhelming evidence to change the call on the field.

I thought the Cardinals played a great game and would not have bitched if they won. I don't believe that Fitzgerald's TD catch was complete but the Steeler's didn't challenge it so you can't go back and cry foul.

104 posted on 02/02/2009 6:10:08 PM PST by Eagles6 ( Typical White Guy: Christian, Constitutionalist, Heterosexual, Redneck. (Let them eat arugula!))
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To: Jaime2099

As to the Seahawks game, I have watched each disputed call at least 50 times on dvd and vhs on a big screen, high def they were all legitimate. That technology is good for something, it usually just makes hollyweirds uglier.


105 posted on 02/02/2009 6:14:06 PM PST by Eagles6 ( Typical White Guy: Christian, Constitutionalist, Heterosexual, Redneck. (Let them eat arugula!))
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To: Poser
It really didn’t matter at that point. The refs had already screwed the Cardinals so badly that the game was over anyway.

The Cards were poorly coached. 18 seconds left in the first half you take the 3 points and reconfigure your offense during half time.

Warner was rushing the play to allow enough time for a field goal if he couldn't get the touch down. That play was the difference between winning and losing. Shades of the NY Giants when they ran the ball instead of taking a knee.

106 posted on 02/02/2009 6:19:30 PM PST by stig
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To: MPJackal

Well stated. Many questionable calls, quite sad.

Zebras need to stay the f out of the way and let them play.


107 posted on 02/02/2009 6:21:06 PM PST by edge10 (Obama lied, babies died!)
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To: se_ohio_young_conservative

Y’all need to just stop your whining...how many plays are in the game? The Cardinals had more than enough opportunities to win. Hells bells, James Harrison was held on just about every play if ya wanna cry about sumthin!


108 posted on 02/02/2009 6:22:54 PM PST by ATCNavyRetiree (I can most times spot a liberal...they look weak, cowardly and undisciplined.)
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To: Eagles6
Fair enough, had it been my team, I would think the same as you. I watched Super Bowl XL cheering for neither side and that is what I felt about the game.

What we can agree on is HD making hollyweirds look uglier.
109 posted on 02/02/2009 6:23:16 PM PST by Jaime2099
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To: ATCNavyRetiree

Holding happens on nearly ever play in a football game. It’s up to the refs to fairly call it equally on both sides.


110 posted on 02/02/2009 6:25:59 PM PST by Jaime2099
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To: Petronski

‘As I have explained, the part I do not understand is the mental affliction that would cause someone to look at a historical fact and claim it is not so.’

Globull Warming is a fact as well according to you, as the ‘consensus’ says it’s so.

The play in question is up to interpretation (obviously because well meaning people see it differently), so it isn’t a ‘fact’.


111 posted on 02/02/2009 6:27:04 PM PST by edge10 (Obama lied, babies died!)
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To: Jaime2099

Yep and I also think the Steeler’s owner, Rooney, is an a$$ for supporting “zero” and his comments after the game.


112 posted on 02/02/2009 6:30:47 PM PST by Eagles6 ( Typical White Guy: Christian, Constitutionalist, Heterosexual, Redneck. (Let them eat arugula!))
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To: The KG9 Kid

The Stealers are now in the same category asthe San AnPhonio Sterns of the NBA.

They were GIVEN the game by the refs. Holmes did not get both feet down. His right foot was in contact with the sole of his left foot and never touched turf. Total bullshit.

A very dirty win, if you can even call it that. Tainted forever.


113 posted on 02/02/2009 6:37:53 PM PST by jokyfo (JESUS CHRIST: The Light of the world... AMERICA: The light of freedom.)
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To: jokyfo
They were GIVEN the game by the refs. Holmes did not get both feet down. His right foot was in contact with the sole of his left foot and never touched turf. Total bullshit.

Jokyfo:

Arizona had triple coverage on Holmes who caught the ball anyway with a postage-size stamp of endzone to land in, and you're arguing over the position of the sole of his left foot never mind that both toe tips were clearly inside the field.

The other desperate argument we've been hearing today hinges on that Kurt Warner wasn't getting his ass nearly sacked in a proper NFL-approved manner which unjustly caused him to drop the football.

Let's not make pathetic excuses for Arizona's lousy performance yesterday. Interception at the goal line with a 100-yard return? Debating over the QB's arm traveling a half inch forward and the position of the bottom left quadrant of the underside front cleat pad of the receiver who caught a clear winning touchdown is just sad and miserable.

Anyone who had nothing to lose in yesterday's game could easily see who the dominating team was all game long. The 2008 Cardinals were the weakest team ever to make the Super Bowl and they received what was expected.

114 posted on 02/02/2009 7:08:37 PM PST by The KG9 Kid
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To: Ikemeister

Agree about college ball. That said, if the game is close enough that one bad call or even a few costs you the game, then you didn’t do your job. Anyone who has played football at any refd level knows this.

I’m a Brownie, so I really had no dog in last night’s fight. Saw bad calls both ways. The Steelers won by the agreed upon rules. It’s over. That is, until my Buckeyes take apart USC in a grudge match at the start of next season...


115 posted on 02/02/2009 7:13:35 PM PST by piytar (Atlas is Shrugging. I am Atlas.)
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To: piytar
I’m a Brownie, so I really had no dog in last night’s fight. Saw bad calls both ways. The Steelers won by the agreed upon rules. It’s over.

Thank you. I wish some of your fellow Browns fans could overcome their Steeler Derangement Syndrome and share your view. Some of the guys I know were simply unbearable today with their whining about it.

116 posted on 02/02/2009 8:31:28 PM PST by GCC Catholic (0bama, what are you hiding? Just show us the birth certificate...)
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To: Petronski
The identification of this play as a fumble is not “an interpretation,” it is fact.

It's a fact that it was interpreted as a fumble. Now the question is, was it the correct interpretation?

117 posted on 02/02/2009 11:50:58 PM PST by Isabel C.
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To: Lakeshark

They cheated....we’ll have to call it a draw. :P


118 posted on 02/03/2009 1:03:19 AM PST by derllak
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To: Isabel C.

It is a fact that it was a fumble.


119 posted on 02/03/2009 3:12:55 AM PST by Petronski (For the next few years, Gethsemane will not be marginal. We will know that garden. -- Cdl. Stafford)
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To: edge10
Globull Warming is a fact as well according to you...

No, it is not. Do not lie about my positions.

...as the ‘consensus’ says it’s so.

The play is not a fumble because of 'consensus.' It is a fumble because it is a fumble. Look it up.

The play in question is up to interpretation (obviously because well meaning people see it differently), so it isn’t a ‘fact’.

It IS a fumble. That is a fact. You can look it up if you want, you need only scroll to the top of this thread. It's right there.

120 posted on 02/03/2009 3:16:00 AM PST by Petronski (For the next few years, Gethsemane will not be marginal. We will know that garden. -- Cdl. Stafford)
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