Posted on 01/20/2009 11:34:23 AM PST by rxsid
"But I believe that Justice Roberts may have forgotten a portion of the Presidential oath" [snip]
"On Fox they just said that they don't think he is legally sworn in. The words weren't right according to the Constitution" [snip]
"Fox did indeed say they thought there was a problem with Justice Roberts version of what he was supposed to say....Intentional maybe????"
Source = http://countryfirst.bravehost.com/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=111&t=2127
Has anyone else heard this, or something along these lines? Looking for additional resources and confirmation as well...
Actually, the Constitution, in Amendment XX, says the successor’s term of office begins at that time, which is not a specification that it is the President elect.
Then in Section 3 of the 20th, it says that if the President elect shall have failed to qualify, the Vice President elect becomes Acting President.
Art II says the President does not enter into the execution of the office until he takes the oath. That makes taking the oath a qualification of the office. IMO, even though the word order was slightly off, he took the oath at about 12:06pm.
Therefore, for about 5 or 6 minutes, Biden was Acting President. As I posted elsewhere, it’s a distinction without a difference.
Obama is President, absent one of the NBC lawsuits succeeding. Therefore, Obama, for the very first time in his life, is responsible for what happens and for what he does as President. He can no longer vote Present.
Look, we all heard it. Chris Wallace said that it was not word for word the Oath in the Constitution and posited the humorous notion that perhaps Obama is not officially President because of it. All Roberts has to do is declare him such in the event some loon would make a fuss. On to more important things.
Bush’s fault?
It sounded like he inverted a couple of words the first time and corrected them the second time. You know that Obama had it memorized, so he realized the error, and didn't repeat it.
By the way, correct me if I'm wrong, but aren't presidents usually sworn in just after midnight and this was really just for show?
And after you pounced....then what?
You have it exactly backwards. The presidential oath is the only oath required by the Constitution. The day and time of the swearing was established by legislation. The presidential oath cannot be changed except by constitutional amendment. The day and time of swearing in can be changed anytime Congress passes a new law on the matter.
Article II, Section 1, last paragraph
Before he enter on the Execution of his Office, he shall take the following Oath or Affirmation:--"I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will faithfully execute the Office of President of the United States, and will to the best of my Ability, preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States."
"I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will faithfully execute the Office of President of the United States, and will to the best of my Ability, preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States."
Compared to the video, the only error was that the CJ placed the word "faithfully" after States, which seemed to catch Obama off-guard. If anyone out there criticizes Roberts for misplacing a word, I'm pointing out that their President was easily tripped up.
I started researching the Oath of Office.
Indeed. The usurper is in 'office.'
You are wrong.
I’ve taken the oath several times. On occasion, the person issuing the oath makes an error and mixes up the words.
“Repeat after me” isn’t hard. No matter what you think they were supposed to say, you just repeat what they said. Works every time.
Who's 'we?'
I didn't watch it. Thus the question :)
"On to more important things."
Correct, like getting the usurper removed from office!
He didn’t REALLY “ask” if zero wanted to say “so help me God”,
but his voice DID “go interrogative” and it DID sound like Barry was answering a question.
I was still waiting for “so help me, Me”.
I think there was an error with Biden’s swearing in too. It sounded like a line was missing perhaps. But then how old is Stevens, 90 something?
I would have thought these folks would “rehearse.” I have wondered does the CJ ever confer with the president on how the oath will be read? Sometimes they say “I (name) do solemnly swear” while other times it is just the “I,” followed by their name, before the rest of the oath continues. So this has caused confusion before.
In any case after watching these ceremonies for decades I knew it sounded wrong from the get go. “Execute the office faithfully?” Roberts should have read it more carefully, unless he was just jittery as it was the first time for him too.
You have it exactly backwards. The presidential oath is the only oath required by the Constitution. The day and time of the swearing was established by legislation. The presidential oath cannot be changed except by constitutional amendment. The day and time of swearing in can be changed anytime Congress passes a new law on the matter.You are forgetting the 20th Amendment that states "The terms of the President and Vice President shall end at noon on the 20th day of January, and the terms of Senators and Representatives at noon on the 3d day of January, of the years in which such terms would have ended if this article had not been ratified; and the terms of their successors shall then begin."Article II, Section 1, last paragraph
Before he enter on the Execution of his Office, he shall take the following Oath or Affirmation:--"I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will faithfully execute the Office of President of the United States, and will to the best of my Ability, preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States."
Excerpt:
WASHINGTON -- Chief Justice John Roberts swore in President-elect Barack Obama as president of the United States on Tuesday, helping him through a slight stumble in the first of what could be many important interactions between two men who rose to their positions of power quickly and who have some background similarities, but whose politics differ.Ironically, the story link on the Foxnews website lists the headline as: "Obama Corrects Roberts After Oath Stumble"Separated by a Bible used by Abraham Lincoln at his first inaugural, Roberts asked Obama: "Are you prepared to take the oath senator?"
Obama indicated he was, and Roberts started reciting -- and Obama repeating -- the 35-word oath that is prescribed by the Constitution.
But at one point early on, Obama paused, as if grasping for the next words. Roberts helped him over the brief awkward moment, repeating a few words to get Obama back on track.
He was then the first to congratulate Obama on his new job.
Methinks a little divine intervention blip with screwing up the oath on the word 'faithfully'... just one man's opinion nevertheless.
I’m going to tell you one thing, kid...Sigmund Freud.
From our Constitution (Article II, Section 1)
Before he enter on the Execution of his Office, he shall take the following Oath or Affirmation:—”I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will faithfully execute the Office of President of the United States, and will to the best of my Ability, preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States.”
I watched the inauguration - the first since Eisenhower - and while President Obama did choke once this is what I heard.
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