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To: mtngrandpa

I believe the MSM, DNC, and yes, the RNC were all silent on the issue because they knew both Obama and McCain did not Constitutionally qualify to hold the Office of President.

I pray the truth comes out as Leo Donofrio has the truth on his side. http://naturalborncitizen.wordpress.com/


114 posted on 12/05/2008 8:06:01 AM PST by seekthetruth
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To: seekthetruth; All

“they knew both Obama and McCain did not Constitutionally qualify”

With the circumstances of Obama’s birth and subsequent living in Indonesia, I can see the problem - an agree he isn’t qualified. However, John McCain was born to two full American citizens that were on foreign soil in the service of the U.S. Navy. I see no potential “loyalty conflicts” there. Isn’t this the purpose behind the “natural born” requirement? No divided or questionably loyaltys??


118 posted on 12/05/2008 8:12:32 AM PST by Sola Veritas (Trying to speak truth - not always with the best grammar or spelling)
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To: seekthetruth

You (and the fellow with the website you link) have latched onto a definition of natural born that isn’t defined in law anywhere.

You have asserted THREE types of citizenship: birth citizenship, natural birth citizenship, and naturalized citizenship.

This is over complicated and has no basis in law that I am aware of.

The “natural born” citizenship test is easy to understand: were you a citizen at birth? If yes, you are a natural born citizen! If not you were NOT a citizen (natural born, or any other type). If you are a citizen NOW you, therefore were naturalized.

Everyone in America fits into one of these two categories (if they are here legally).

McCain fits into the FIRST category. He as a citizen at birth. His married parents were citizens, his father was serving in the Navy. The place of his birth makes no difference whatsoever. He could have been born in Mecca and he would still have been an American from birth.

IE: Natural Born.

There are not two classes of citizens, some more equal than others at birth.

That is my take based on extensive research on this.

The real issue with Obama is not that he’s not a “natural born” citizen, it is that he is NOT A CITIZEN at all. If he did not gain his citizenship at birth, due to the nature of the law at that time, then he never got citzenship AT ALL. (Unless he has hidden his naturalization papers, which I doubt.)

He not only can not be President, if this is true, he can not be a Senator, and can not legally live in the USA.

I knew a girl who was in exactly this position. Her dad had her in the Navy with his Phillipino girlfriend. The married and moved here when she was a few months old. At the time she was admitted on her dads passport. At age 20 she discovered that she wasn’t a citizen. (Same law that is getting Barry!). She applied and was naturalized.


152 posted on 12/05/2008 8:46:41 AM PST by Jack Black (ping can't be a tag line, can it?)
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To: seekthetruth
I believe the MSM, DNC, and yes, the RNC were all silent on the issue because they knew both Obama and McCain did not Constitutionally qualify to hold the Office of President.

I ask you, what are the chances that for the first time in US history, not one, but <i>both</i> candidates for the major political parties have issues surrounding their status as a "natural born" citizen?

I see it as further evidence that elections in America are a farce decided well before any "votes" are taken.

428 posted on 12/05/2008 11:15:20 AM PST by zeugma (Will it be nukes or aliens? Time will tell.)
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