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Should Obama have picked Hillary? (Feminazi Barf Alert)
Salon ^ | August 29, 2008 | Rebecca Traister

Posted on 08/29/2008 11:21:59 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

Republicans dropped a news bomb on Friday morning, shattering the mile-high reverie of Barack Obama's Thursday night speech with news that John McCain has picked Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin to be his running mate.

The first thing you may notice about Palin is that she is a woman, the first female governor of Alaska and, at 44, its youngest. This is big news on a presidential stage: It makes her only the second major-party woman vice-presidential candidate in American history, the first in GOP history, and presents this forehead-smacking reality: Come January 2009, this country will have either a black president or a female vice president.

Palin is a former sports reporter and housewife who became mayor of Wasilla, Alaska, in 1996, and was elected governor in 2006. She is the mother of five children (named Track, Bristol, Willow, Piper and Trig -- top that, Gwyneth Paltrow!), the oldest of whom will be deployed to Iraq on Sept. 11 (seriously) and the youngest of whom was born four months ago with Down syndrome. Palin's decision to continue her pregnancy, despite the fact that the illness was detected in prenatal genetic tests, will be a rallying point for the religious right.

Palin presents some stomach-churning possibilities for Democrats and for the Obama campaign, which has spent the past summer, and especially the past week, wrestling disillusioned women into line after the disappointment of Hillary Clinton's supercharged but failed presidential bid.

Of course, even a cursory glance at Palin's positions should be enough to warn Democratic women (and men) to stay far, far away. The governor's Web site states: "I am pro-life and I believe that marriage should only be between a man and a woman." Palin is a member of Feminists for Life, and said during her gubernatorial campaign that she is opposed to abortion even in cases of rape and incest. Palin is a lifelong member of the National Rifle Association, and when it comes to healthcare, she says, "I support flexibility in government regulations that allow competition in health care that is needed."

For the true Hillary holdouts, the handful of so-called PUMAs who spent this week jawing about how they were going to vote for John McCain, these antiwoman stances aren't likely to make a dent. These agitators will not consider that picking Palin, a politician with only a few years of experience, is a pandering and condescending sop toward them, one that suggests that by dint of her gender alone, Palin could stand in for Clinton, who spent years being fire-forged for her place in history.

Then again, after a week in which Clinton did everything short of standing on her head and humming the Battle Hymn of the Republic to get women fired up and ready to go for Obama, and in which Obama and Joe Biden did their part to provide some thrilling political theater for both sexes, nothing was going to shake these stalwarts, whom Rachel Maddow recently called "post-rational," from their self-immolating mission.

But even among more reasonable Democrats, the Palin pick does create worries for the still-tender party, not the least of which is that it will reopen a debate about whether Barack Obama should have picked a female vice president, or more specifically, Hillary Clinton.

Biden is a strong candidate for Democratic women, with a good record of supporting reproductive rights and opposing antichoice nominees to the Supreme Court. Biden also wrote the groundbreaking Violence Against Women Act, and is great on the lunch-bucket economic issues so vital to so many American women.

But there was pressure on Obama, especially after the energy (and votes) generated by Clinton's run, to consider as a running mate Clinton herself, or women like Kathleen Sebelius and Janet Napolitano. He reportedly did not formally vet Clinton, and none of his final top three candidates for the job were female.

The selection of Palin makes it easier to see what the advantages of putting a woman on the Democratic ticket might have been for Obama. McCain likely tapped Palin specifically to battle Obama's perceived woman problem, and her selection blunts the Obama camp's argument that McCain has entirely lost his maverick edge. It also keeps Obama's from being the only history-making candidacy in the voting booth, and allows those undecideds who might have been queasy about Obama's differences (i.e. race) to funnel guilt about their hesitation into a vote they can tell themselves is socially progressive, and even -- ugh -- feminist.

During her speech, Palin gave a shout-out to Geraldine Ferraro and cited Clinton's rallying cry about the 18 million voters who cracked the White House glass ceiling, chillingly promising to break it for her. It was hard not to consider that if elected, Palin will be one health emergency away from becoming our first female president, and to feel frustration at Democrats not only for letting this particular piece of history slip through their fingers but for allowing the work that Clinton and her supporters did to get co-opted by their Republican opponents. If the Palin selection brings female voters to the McCain camp, there is likely to be a round of second-guessing about whether Obama read the tea leaves wrong and missed an opportunity to shore up his divided party more effectively by going with, or at least seriously considering, Clinton.

Palin's spot on the ticket will also mean the diffusion of feminist energy. Those who monitor gender bias in popular culture and the media are still icing their heads after the exhausting season of Clinton-baiting by the press, and (too) slowly rousting themselves to take on the ugly treatment of Michelle Obama. Now there will also be Sarah Palin to consider, a candidate who represents none of what they believe in, but whose nomination is already highlighting the fact that the Clinton candidacy apparently taught the news media nothing.

Over at CNN, John Roberts on Friday morning was talking about how the major function of a vice president is "to go to funerals," when he changed his tune about exactly how taxing the position might be. Discussing Palin's infant, Roberts noted, "Children with Down syndrome require an awful lot of attention and the role of vice president, it seems to me, would take up an awful lot of her time. It raises the issue of how much time will she have to dedicate to her newborn child?"

Dana Bash responded only that while Roberts' was "a very good question," she assumed that the McCain camp would wonder whether "if it were a man being picked who also had a baby with Down syndrome, would you also ask the same question?" Bash did not note that moments before, Roberts had been describing the vice presidency as a purely ceremonial position, or point out that Palin has for some time been pulling off the feat of governing a state while lactating (not to mention gestating!).

Meanwhile, over at the supposedly progressive MSNBC, Andrea Mitchell was consumed with one key question: whether Palin would neuter big bad Joe Biden. Forgetting, apparently, that the Delaware senator didn't seem to be frozen with fear while debating Hillary Clinton for the Democratic nomination, Mitchell wondered about how Biden, known for his attack-dog debate style, "can be tough against a woman. Doesn't it give her a gender advantage?" This was clearly Mitchell's keenest insight into McCain's pick, since a few minutes later she repeated, "You can't be too tough on a woman in a debate, or can you?"

And then there's the fact that Palin is a very attractive woman, a Tina Fey look-alike who was a runner-up for Miss Alaska in 1984 and, who even before getting picked by McCain, had already been tagged online as a GILF (think MILF except for governors!). And the Wall Street Journal quickly put up a piece about her workout routine and diet. "My ideal fantasy is to be running on a hot dusty road just wearing running shorts and some kind of top that wicks away sweat," she tells the paper, as well as that "a skinny white-chocolate mocha is my staple in the morning."

Welcome to the 2008 presidential race, folks, where history gets made about as prettily as sausage.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; Philosophy; Politics/Elections; US: Alaska
KEYWORDS: 2008; election; elections; hillary; mccain; obama; palin; puma
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I can smell the fear all the way from New York City. The 200+ comments are a HOOT!!
1 posted on 08/29/2008 11:21:59 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
I guess Salon and staff are going to have to move to France.
2 posted on 08/29/2008 11:24:42 PM PDT by Navy Patriot (The beauty of conservatism, Sarah Palin.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The DNC had absolutely no intention of allowing Hillary to win the nomination. They changed the rules in the Texas primary so even though she won the popular vote, she lost the caucus vote. Only in Texas did they do that.

They disenfranchised the votes of two states that went for her, and didn’t even give her the courtesy of vetting her for the VP slot. Apparently, women can participate, as long as they know their place in the Democrat party and it isn’t in the top job.

If anyone thinks the Dems wanted her on the ticket, well, they can buy my swamp. It’s a great deal.


3 posted on 08/29/2008 11:28:57 PM PDT by OpusatFR (As we bicker about faith, the faithful are witnesses by their martydom.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
"Come January 2009, this country will have either a black president or a female vice president."

Complete and utter nonsense! We will either have a Marxist President, or a pro free enterprise Vice President!

4 posted on 08/29/2008 11:29:13 PM PDT by avacado
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The booze they drank in Denver wore off. Looks like buyer’s remorse has taken over.


5 posted on 08/29/2008 11:29:36 PM PDT by BigSkyFreeper (There is no alternative to the GOP except varying degrees of insanity)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Written for SALON about someone from ALASKA. There is no direct correlation between these two worlds.


6 posted on 08/29/2008 11:30:26 PM PDT by combat_boots (She lives! 22 weeks, 9.5 inches. Go, baby, go!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

She’s underestimating the PUMA gals though. On one of the Hillary sites, HillaryClintonforum.net, they are STOKED about Palin and even have a donation link for McCain/Palin.

Most of them think that the Democrats are a bunch of hypocrites. They are coming to see the light. They see Palin as a “sister” in this fight.


7 posted on 08/29/2008 11:32:10 PM PDT by Shelayne (McCain/Palin 08)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
I stopped reading...HERE:

these antiwoman stances

Of course--not wanting to exterminate innocent, helpless, unborn women is "antiwoman". Only in the 1984-Land of the Democrat mindset.

8 posted on 08/29/2008 11:32:45 PM PDT by Darkwolf377 (Obama wanted to toss a few Christians to lions for a finale, but MSNBC wouldn't let him.)
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To: Navy Patriot

I know that Salon prides itself as a progressive open minded web site, but, the term “MILF” is a pornography term. Is that really appropriate to use outside the bounds of a pornographic web site???????


9 posted on 08/29/2008 11:32:48 PM PDT by Dilbert San Diego
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To: Shelayne

Here’s several millions (minimum) of PUMAs, etc..

Hillary Clinton Supporters For John McCain:

http://www.hcsfjm.com

Party Unity My A$$ PAC/People United Means Action PAC:

http://blog.pumapac.org

Democrats Against Obama/Nobama ever!

http://democrats-against-obama.org

Just Say No Deal:

http://justsaynodeal.com

Take a look around these sites for a half hour or 45 minutes....(there are hundreds more linked to these, just look for links)

It doesn’t look to me as if these sites have shut down just because Hillary and Bill endorsed Barack...


10 posted on 08/29/2008 11:35:43 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (Barack Obama: In Error and arrogant -- he's errogant!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
This is actually a relatively good article in a sense that the author realizes what problems Palin’s candidacy are to Obama. While she doesn't hide her liberalism, she also recognizes that Palin neutralizes the ‘historical vote’ issue. If people want to be part of the ‘history’, now they can vote either for the first Black President or Female Vice President. Either one will be historical vote.
11 posted on 08/29/2008 11:35:57 PM PDT by paudio (Is electing Obama good for the conservative movement in the long run?)
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To: OpusatFR
Muslims treat women as second class citizens.

That explains HUSSEIN actions towards SHRILLARY!

12 posted on 08/29/2008 11:37:07 PM PDT by Rome2000 (Peace is not an option)
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To: paudio

Yes, and she’s being attacked by every fifth Obot poster after her article.


13 posted on 08/29/2008 11:37:31 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (Barack Obama: In Error and arrogant -- he's errogant!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Wow. I was going to pick a few sentences to comment on and the more I read the more I realized this is a bomb shell really for not just the disrespect and poor decision making of their inexperienced candidate (if he was more experienced it would not have so limited his choice of who he picked as a running mate by the way, just another hinderance to having an inexperience front runner on the ticker.). But also how if Sarah succeeds in becoming the VP (SHE WILL!!) or even if she does not she blows the whole BS ideals and evil trance the NOW type 'feminazis' have worked for so many years to build and then protect sky high.

Sarah shows how all their thinking and murdering and BS is just lie, after lie, after lie. People see and hear Sarah and look at her actions and example and she shows many women/girls what a true woman is and reminds their spirits and souls (even if the MSM will try to downgrade their head) that murder and all that other BS that is handed to them by the NOWs, the liberal celebs, the Democratic party is just a bunch of repressive blackness leading and keeping them no where but continual darkness.

Now they truly will have a real choice and role-model to consider. Watch out her comes Sarah for VP!!

14 posted on 08/29/2008 11:37:32 PM PDT by GOP Poet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
“... queasy about Obama’s differences (i.e. race) ...”

They just can't let go of race. If you don't like the guy you are a “racist”... A lot of people are going to find that position down right offensive. Stupid political writers...

15 posted on 08/29/2008 11:39:15 PM PDT by DB
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Palin could stand in for Clinton, who spent years being fire-forged for her place in history.

Um, correct me if I'm wrong, but Hil has spent 8 years in her first elected office. That's not exactly a fire-forging for a date with destiny.

16 posted on 08/29/2008 11:39:58 PM PDT by Canticle_of_Deborah (Repentance is a contract with God for a second life - St. John Climacus)
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To: jveritas; FARS; Ernest_at_the_Beach; knighthawk; Marine_Uncle; SandRat; Steel Wolf; CAP; ...

Post Palin Democrat second-guessing of Obama’s Biden pick ping.


17 posted on 08/29/2008 11:41:50 PM PDT by elhombrelibre (Obama: vain, mercurial, inexperienced, aloof, condescending, doctrinaire, and Reverend Wright's son.)
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To: Shelayne
She’s underestimating the PUMA gals though. On one of the Hillary sites, HillaryClintonforum.net, they are STOKED about Palin and even have a donation link for McCain/Palin. Most of them think that the Democrats are a bunch of hypocrites. They are coming to see the light. They see Palin as a “sister” in this fight.

I read that whole site tonight. You are right. The Hillary supporters want a "sister" in the White House. And they want it now! They see Obama as someone who kept a woman (Hillary) out of the White House, and now see Obama trying to keep ANOTHER woman (Palin) out of the White House. They aren't going to wait another 4 years to see if a woman can get into the White House. Sarah Palin is their woman to get into the White House now!

18 posted on 08/29/2008 11:43:39 PM PDT by avacado
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To: Dilbert San Diego
the term “MILF” is a pornography term.

I haven't the foggiest, but I accept your definition. I'm not going to search it to find out.

Salon is a classless rag.

19 posted on 08/29/2008 11:43:50 PM PDT by Navy Patriot (The beauty of conservatism, Sarah Palin.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
It raises the issue of how much time will she have to dedicate to her newborn child?

This didn't seem to bother anyone when she was Governor of Alaska. The ditz that wrote this talks like she might be smoking something. The 'RATS are scared. Their whole world got turned on its head today. 'RATS are losers and will always be losers.

20 posted on 08/29/2008 11:44:19 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (A History and Science Minute.- "Climate change" has been going on for millions of years!)
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