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Georgia invasion 'planned since April' (Best Background I've read)
The National ^ | August 16. 2008 | Alan Philps

Posted on 08/16/2008 8:36:34 AM PDT by Colorado Doug

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41 posted on 08/16/2008 10:56:12 AM PDT by VOA
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To: Salgak
I think the vernacular was clear enough.


42 posted on 08/16/2008 10:56:16 AM PDT by nathanbedford ("Attack, repeat attack!" Bull Halsey)
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To: nonomous

Exactly, takes months of planning and pre-positioning of that much armour to invade a country.

The logistics of the Russian invasion had to have been obviously planned ahead of time with the S.Ossetian thugs lighting the match.

Incredible to see the KGB apologists trying to argue it`s Georgia`s fault that Russia amassed the armour months in advance of their planned invasion to take place after the S.Ossetian provocations.


43 posted on 08/16/2008 11:02:14 AM PDT by Para-Ord.45
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To: Colorado Doug
Since when do you have one of the combatants become "peacekeepers" ?

Who allowed tne Russians to be "peacekeepers" in Abkhazia and South Ossetia.

This region has been a powder keg for 14 years .

President Mikheil Saakashvili strongly urged the EU President Xavier
Solona to replace the Russians with other more neutral peacekeepers
months ago and was rejected.

It would seem that the EU is supporting the Russians and contributed
to this aggression.

OBTW where have State, Defense and CIA been for the past 14 years ?

You don't need Humint or spy satellites to know that you don't have a
combatant(Russia) whose leader is ex-KGB, as a"peacekeeper"

It is all about World Domination by the Russians using Oil as the weapon.


44 posted on 08/16/2008 11:07:53 AM PDT by Uri’el-2012 (Psalm 78:35 And they remembered that God was their ROCK, And the Most High God their Redeemer.)
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To: Natty Bumppo@frontier.net
I have read the Legacy of Ashes and I've also read the biography of Dick Cheney which reports his unease over the operations of the CIA and his penchant for asking penetrating questions.

I am also aware of the leaks from the CIA directly to the New York Times. And I think they are within buggering distance of the State Department when it comes to treachery. It seems undeniable that we have a fifth column operating against Republican foreign policy.

In the likely event that Obama is elected, it will be interesting to see who wins the struggle to conduct American foreign policy. Perhaps we never will "see" such a struggle because it will certainly be done sotto voce. My money is not on Obama but on the CIA. Of course, that presumes that there are any differences in policy between them. There will be another fight conducted by the rump group of some conservatives still squirreled away somewhere in the CIA.

There is another complication of all of this, we live in the post-McCarthy era and that implies that if one complains too loudly or too long about these matters he is branded a McCarthyite and the subject is closed along with the complainer' s career.

This brings us back to Dick Cheney. In addition to his concern about the quality of intelligence and his diligence in mastering it, one is struck by the total commitment by Cheney to secrecy. The Liberals characterize this as either sinister symptom of his evil doings or paranoia. I prefer to think that Cheney knew what he was about and someday he will be identified as a great American hero.


45 posted on 08/16/2008 11:09:50 AM PDT by nathanbedford ("Attack, repeat attack!" Bull Halsey)
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To: ItisaReligionofPeace

I would say that it is one that agrees with the mindset of Vlad Putin in that any former Soviet State is yet still beholden to Russia. I can tell you from experience that such men live among us here in the US, I went to college with a former Marine who fought in the first Gulf War who considers himself a Serb before an American. He would serve Serbia or Russia over defending the Constitution to which he swore a solemn oath. His Serbian flag completely covers his back as a tattoo. Last night I watched Michael Phelps win the gold against an apparent Serb who was actually born and raised in California to Serbian immigrants. I think it was pure pandering and folly as to the recognition of Kosovo by the West and most certainly a misstep on our behalf but that has little to do with what happened here. There have been millions of people leaving Russia to live amongst the free world and many of them are nothing more than moles waiting for Vlad’s plan to be executed. We will reap what we sow if we ignore this.


46 posted on 08/16/2008 11:21:22 AM PDT by Camel Joe (liberal=socialist=royalist/imperialist pawn=enemy of Freedom)
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To: Camel Joe

Interesting perspective and not at all what I expected to hear. Thanks!


47 posted on 08/16/2008 11:29:02 AM PDT by ItisaReligionofPeace
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To: Camel Joe

See my home page. I’ve started a list there.


48 posted on 08/16/2008 11:39:57 AM PDT by pgkdan (Tolerance is the virtue of the man without convictions - G.K. Chesterton)
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To: Camel Joe

Great post on the Serb who was raised and born in California. I think he also went to Auburn for his swimming tutelage.

Russian, Serb, Chinese, Islamofacist...they are all here and since we no longer have an American centered naturalization process, we will see moles appear again and again. Unfortunately, this fact will also see more stringent civil liberty concessions out of necessity when the stuff hits the fan. Terrible and sad consequences.


49 posted on 08/16/2008 11:42:37 AM PDT by rbmillerjr (send concerns to Russian Trade Ministry rustrade@verizon.net Hit Russia in wallet....)
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To: nathanbedford
Where the hell was the CIA?

Busy trying to undermine the Bush Administration, of course.

50 posted on 08/16/2008 11:47:28 AM PDT by Interesting Times (Swiftboating, you say? Check out ToSetTheRecordStraight.com)
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To: nathanbedford
Where the hell was the CIA?

Are you for real???
Our CIA is 90% fat ass desk jockeys that you've heard called "analysts"
Also factor in all the unqualified women and affirmative action hires
And foreign born people who have minimal loyalty to America

**** Some immigrants working there are very pro-American
In the good old days they staffed the Voice of America and other anti Communist outlets

51 posted on 08/16/2008 11:52:21 AM PDT by dennisw (That Muhammad was a charlatan. Islam is a hoax, an imperialistic ideology, disguised as religion.)
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To: B4Ranch
Gathering as much Intel as 44 satelites would allow.

My thoughts, too.

52 posted on 08/16/2008 11:54:04 AM PDT by Alia
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To: dennisw

You got to remember Plame isn’t there any longer.


53 posted on 08/16/2008 11:56:54 AM PDT by razorback-bert (Earth First...we will drill the other planets later.)
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To: dennisw

“Our CIA is 90% fat ass desk jockeys that you’ve heard called “analysts””

I wold posit that that is the real problem. Way too many Ivy league pinhead types. Desk jockeying booracrats are not going to win the war on terror.


54 posted on 08/16/2008 11:59:33 AM PDT by rbmillerjr (send concerns to Russian Trade Ministry rustrade@verizon.net Hit Russia in wallet....)
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To: Natty Bumppo@frontier.net
The CIA had the data, had the intelligence, but REFUSED to connect the dots

No, I'm not sensing that, whatsoever. Besides, even if CIA "had the data"; the U.S. military would have also had the data. And like bloody hell they'd have "not noticed" the movements - they would have.

Not tinfoil hat inclined here, but, I wonder if someone sent certain satellites a "cold". I'm basing this on "weapons/cyber" stuff I've been reading over the past 4 years. Russia has some amazing space programs; which the U.S. also uses.

Just thinking aloud here...

55 posted on 08/16/2008 12:00:44 PM PDT by Alia
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To: Colorado Doug

bttt


56 posted on 08/16/2008 12:04:53 PM PDT by dennisw (That Muhammad was a charlatan. Islam is a hoax, an imperialistic ideology, disguised as religion.)
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To: Colorado Doug
“No European country said anything about it,” he said during a visit by Condoleezza Rice, the US secretary of state. “So who invited the trouble here? Who invited this arrogance here? Who invited these innocent deaths here? It is not only those people who perpetrate them who are responsible, but also those people who failed to stop them.”

Exactly! Tail tucking appeasers (ie liberals) create more danger and cause more suffering than the warriors of the world.

57 posted on 08/16/2008 12:08:44 PM PDT by TigersEye (Berlin '36 ... Olympics for murdering regimes. ... Beijing '08)
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To: dennisw
Where the hell was the CIA?

Are you for real???

Dennis, Dennis, in case the sarcasm was too subtle for those who are inclined to shoot from the hip, I prefaced it with the sentence:

"Inquiring minds want to know:"

If that does not satisfy as to my political correctness Free Republic style, I refer you to my post number 45 on this thread to which you have no doubt not yet made your way.


58 posted on 08/16/2008 12:18:44 PM PDT by nathanbedford ("Attack, repeat attack!" Bull Halsey)
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To: B4Ranch
Maybe the CIA should get their noses out of the satellite displays and read some newspapers.

Russia signals Georgia action August 6

Travels in the Former Soviet Union May 19

Tbilisi’s S.Ossetia Diplomatic Offensive Gains Momentum June 26, 2007

59 posted on 08/16/2008 12:30:57 PM PDT by TigersEye (Berlin '36 ... Olympics for murdering regimes. ... Beijing '08)
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To: nathanbedford

OK-— at least you gave me a chance to spout off


60 posted on 08/16/2008 12:38:59 PM PDT by dennisw (That Muhammad was a charlatan. Islam is a hoax, an imperialistic ideology, disguised as religion.)
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