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Gates names non-fighter pilot to head Air Force
LA Times ^ | June 9, 2008 | Peter Spiegel

Posted on 06/09/2008 10:24:06 AM PDT by jazusamo

WASHINGTON -- In a sign of how urgently he wants to shake up the Air Force, Defense Secretary Robert M. Gates announced today he was appointing the first non-fighter pilot to become the service's chief of staff in more than 25 years.

The nomination of Gen. Norton A. Schwartz, who is currently head of the Pentagon's transportation command and rose through the ranks as a pilot of military cargo planes, marks a significant break for the Air Force, which has been led by fighter and bomber pilots almost since its inception after World War II.

In his announcement naming Schwartz, Gates not only emphasized the general's role in transportation aircraft, but also noted his long list of assignments in so-called joint commands -- positions where senior officials work in units made up of officers from all four military services.

Gates also named Michael Donley, a veteran Pentagon bureaucrat who currently is the administrative and management chief of the department, to be Air Force secretary, the department's top civilian.

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; Government
KEYWORDS: airforce; egodrivers; fightermafia; gates
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To: jazusamo

I like the Bomber pilots. They are psychologically screened even more at least thats what one told me.


61 posted on 06/09/2008 2:59:44 PM PDT by omega4179 (Barack Hussein:painfully inadequate,dangerously communist.)
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To: jazusamo

I’ll agree with you, also. There is no question the USAF has had more than a few insufferable fighter jocks, some of whom made it to the upper reaches. The good far out-number the bad.

Reading “In Search of Excellence” and borrowing from Japanese manufacturing practices does not a leader make. Egalitarian utopia has no place in the military. Funny looking uniforms don’t belong, either.


62 posted on 06/09/2008 3:42:25 PM PDT by jblair (Air Force Brat)
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To: Mr. Silverback; Red Dog #1

McPeak has already come out in FAVOR of the new guy - says he’s a fine officer, good priorities, etc.

That alone scares the hell out of me. Hope it is just more McPeak blather.


63 posted on 06/09/2008 5:28:34 PM PDT by Mr Rogers (No matter who wins the Presidency, it will be an enemy of the Constitution...)
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To: Mr. Silverback

Perish the thought!!! Yikes, now I’m going to have nightmares. Already had enough of that idiot.


64 posted on 06/09/2008 5:39:32 PM PDT by ODC-GIRL (Proudly serving our Nation's Homeland Defense)
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To: AlaskaErik
He’s a member of the Council on Foreign Relations. That’s not a good sign.

No, but no surprise, either. You just don't get to be a *player* at that level without being co-opted by this group, or one of its spinoffs. To those who say that the CFR is "just a debiting society", answer me one question...

Why is it that every top-level position in the foreign-policy, or national defense/security fields being taken by somebody from this, or one of its spinoff groups? Do you reasonably expect me, or anyone else in the American public to believe that anyone who is *not* "connected" in this fashion is unqualified to hold such a position?

The fact that this "simple debating society" has what amounts to a stranglehold monopoly on our foreign and defense/security policies, and has had this monopoly since before *I* was even born, should be cause for severe questioning...

the infowarrior

65 posted on 06/09/2008 5:41:00 PM PDT by infowarrior
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To: Cicero
How usual is it for military officers to be members of the CFR?

Start Googling flag-rank, and those who are on "fast-track" to flag rank officers. You'll have your answer, though I'm guaranteed you may not like it...

the infowarrior

66 posted on 06/09/2008 5:45:34 PM PDT by infowarrior
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To: K-oneTexas

Be careful when you write “Fighter Pilots”. When the USAF was created, Gen Curtis LeMay and his Strat Bomber Pilots ruled. Fighters were just something that flew beside the Strat bombers to provide cover. But I think you probably already knew that.

My take was the “Mobility Mafia” started its rise during Persian Gulf “One” as they moved 600K+ people and equipment into theater. I expect that the Mobility Mafia (Gen McNabb, Gen Lichte, Lt Gen Johns) will be the next in line for very senior USAF positions.

Sincerely,

JoMa


67 posted on 06/09/2008 6:56:18 PM PDT by joma89
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To: omega4179

I believe you are referring to the Personal Reliability Program (PRP). And yes, it is something that you need to be in when you deal with nuclear weapons, to include any part of the program (Pilot, planner, maintenance etc).

JoMa


68 posted on 06/09/2008 7:03:46 PM PDT by joma89
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To: DuncanWaring

Indeed. Another blast from the past.


69 posted on 06/10/2008 5:51:38 AM PDT by ken in texas (come fold with us - team #36120)
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To: AlaskaErik

“He’s a member of the Council on Foreign Relations. That’s not a good sign.”

Geez - now there’s a shocker

I also just read that Obama is looking at “former Military Types” for VP

McPeak & Clark fit the CFR bill. If it’s Clark I wonder if he’ll consult with Madonna before accepting.


70 posted on 06/10/2008 12:59:02 PM PDT by Champ (CFR)
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