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Amazing! The FIRST article I've read on this subject where the buyers take RESPONSIBILITY for their own actions and are taking steps to dig themselves out of their own troubles. Refreshing!
1 posted on 06/02/2008 6:57:17 AM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin
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To: Diana in Wisconsin
The foreclosure prevention bills making their way through Congress are designed to keep people in their homes by providing up to $300 billion in federally insured mortgages. But to qualify for these loans, the lenders would have to agree to voluntarily write down the principal on the loan to 85 percent of the appraised value, and the borrowers would have to be able to document their income, along with other requirements.

HEY! Where can I go to get the government to pick up 15% of my mortgage principal? I am going to stop paying my mortgage TODAY so I can qualify! People who are responsible and only buy a house they can afford are FOOLS!!!!

2 posted on 06/02/2008 7:03:26 AM PDT by 2banana (My common ground with terrorists - they want to die for islam and we want to kill them)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin
"The banks loaned money to all kinds of people they shouldn't have, including us," Gary said. "This situation we're in is one of our own making. We were not taken advantage of."

What a refreshing view of the problem...and absolutely true. This is why it absolutely pi$$es me off when Congress suggests jumping in and using my money to bail out these parties. It was a private transaction where both were greedy and at fault and I fail to see why this is my problem and why my money should be used to fix it.

3 posted on 06/02/2008 7:05:11 AM PDT by econjack (Some people are as dumb as soup.)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

This is refreshing. Because of their attitude, I expect they will land on their feet and build wealth again.


5 posted on 06/02/2008 7:07:34 AM PDT by passionfruit (When illegals become legal, even they won't do work American's won't do)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin
It's only the two of them and they buy a 5 bedroom house.

Some people...........

6 posted on 06/02/2008 7:10:30 AM PDT by Just another Joe (Warning: FReeping can be addictive and helpful to your mental health)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

“They had obtained an adjustable-rate loan to buy the house,...”

Root cause ping. I do have to agree with you that it is refreshing that these individuals are not trying to shift the blame.


7 posted on 06/02/2008 7:11:21 AM PDT by CSM (Hey if a small tax increase didn't work, a bigger tax increase should not work even BETTER!)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

Yes, this was a good read. I’m glad there is someone out there taking responsibility and not looking to blame others.

I’m in somewhat of a mess myself, and it is clearly my own fault.


8 posted on 06/02/2008 7:12:18 AM PDT by Joann37
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

While things were going well, they drew $119,000 out of their real estate transactions and another $100,000 in a home equity loan, presumably for lifestyle spending. This left them with no cushion when business turned against them.

If they had simply reinvested their profits in their real estate transactions and not taken out that home equity loan, they would have a quarter million dollar cushion to break their fall.

Moral of the story is that for 99% of the people real estate is someplace to live, not an investment. This expense must be handled very conservatively and minimized at every turn, because the amount of money can swamp the careless quite easily.

This used to be common wisdom, and every first-time home buyer was warned about this by pretty much everyone they talked to. Somehow this common wisdom was lost. It looks like people are figuring it out again.


11 posted on 06/02/2008 7:15:40 AM PDT by gridlock (Now that Polar Bears are protected under ESA, where do I go to apply for a permit to breathe?)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

A refreshing look. We all make mistakes and we learn from the suffering.


20 posted on 06/02/2008 8:14:17 AM PDT by ThisLittleLightofMine
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

They also put the money they made on each house into the next one they bought. They didn’t burn the money on BS as they traded up.

The fatal mistake was getting an ARM. They would still be in their house with a conventional loan. Not sure why someone would us a ARM if they planned on keeping the house?


21 posted on 06/02/2008 8:14:37 AM PDT by zek157
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To: Diana in Wisconsin
... Gary said. "This situation we're in is one of our own making. We were not taken advantage of."

Gary is one of an increasingly rare species. I bet he and his wife recover and do nicely down the road. I hope so.

23 posted on 06/02/2008 8:18:30 AM PDT by RobinOfKingston (Man, that's stupid ... even by congressional standards.)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

Despite the WI and CA residency, there is no way that these people are “liberal”...

I have NEVER seen a lib accept responsibility for their choices.


30 posted on 06/02/2008 9:16:04 AM PDT by MrB (You can't reason people out of a position that they didn't use reason to get into in the first place)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

They turned a quarter of million dollars from real estate since 99, so what’s the problem?


31 posted on 06/02/2008 9:26:57 AM PDT by count-your-change (you don't have to be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin
... they say they simply got caught up in the excitement of the real estate boom and the bad judgment that went with it -- on the part of lenders and borrowers alike.

"The banks loaned money to all kinds of people they shouldn't have, including us," Gary said. "This situation we're in is one of our own making. We were not taken advantage of."

Whole ball of wax...but surprising to see it recognized and in print...

People need to decide for themselves how much house they can afford. Just use the old tried and true formula: Mortgage not to exceed 1/4 of monthly income. Indeed, smart ones would go even lower, leaving a buffer.

And tell the lenders, who now 'qualify' people on the most convoluted criteria ever designed, to stuff it.

Watch words: Thou shalt not covet more than thy can afford.

35 posted on 06/02/2008 9:49:07 AM PDT by maine-iac7 (Typical Gun-Toting, Jesus-Loving Gramma)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

Kudos to the couple for not blaming anybody for the catastrophe that caused.

That said, I am simply amazed by man’s capacity for stupidity when they are in denial and don’t want to believe anything that contradicts their preconceived notions. “See honey, the home has shot up like a meteor therefore past performance DOES necessarily predict future returns, right???”

I am even more dumbfounded by the sheer exhausting numbers of otherwise intelligent people who behaved with such massive stupidity only by burying their head in the sand and pretending that the party would go on forever and ever.

Unfortunately, stupidity hurts.


39 posted on 06/02/2008 5:34:19 PM PDT by Freedom_Is_Not_Free
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To: Diana in Wisconsin
Interesting. The house that appraised at $865,000 three years ago (although it might have been what we called a "three-martini appraisal" back in the late 1970's) cannot find a buyer at $490,000. I wonder what it will eventually sell for when the bank takes it back, and puts it on the market.

My lady heard a story from a friend in CA who was talking about $800,000 properties now selling for $300,000, but I told her that things had not fallen THAT far, yet. Maybe I was wrong?

41 posted on 06/02/2008 6:15:18 PM PDT by hunter112 (The 'straight talk express' gets the straight finger express from me.)
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