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Obama on ID (Intelligent Design)
Thoughts from Kansas ^ | March 31, 2008 | Josh Rosenau

Posted on 04/10/2008 10:46:04 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

The York Daily Record (known for its coverage of the Dover ID trial) interviews Barack Obama:

Q: York County was recently in the news for a lawsuit involving the teaching of intelligent design. What's your attitude regarding the teaching of evolution in public schools?

A: "I'm a Christian, and I believe in parents being able to provide children with religious instruction without interference from the state. But I also believe our schools are there to teach worldly knowledge and science. I believe in evolution, and I believe there's a difference between science and faith. That doesn't make faith any less important than science. It just means they're two different things. And I think it's a mistake to try to cloud the teaching of science with theories that frankly don't hold up to scientific inquiry."

This fills a hole in our knowledge of Sen. Obama's views. In January, Ron Bailey summarized the positions of the Presidential candidates for Reason, and found:

An extensive search could find no explicit statement on evolution from Democratic frontrunner Sen. Barack Obama (Ill.). In June 2006, Obama gave a keynote talk at a Sojourners conference in which he noted, "Substantially more people in America believe in angels than they do in evolution." Obama declared in that speech that the single biggest political gap in America was "between those who attend church regularly and those who don't." He then excoriated "conservative leaders" for exploiting this gap by suggesting that "religious Americans care only about issues like abortion and gay marriage; school prayer and intelligent design." At the very least, this implies that Obama believes intelligent design is unnecessarily divisive. That Obama opposes teaching ID and other nonscience in science classes is hardly surprising, but it is nice to have him clearly on record backing real science.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: creationism; elections; intelligentdesign; obama
Are we surprised?
1 posted on 04/10/2008 10:46:05 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
"I'm a Christian, and I believe in parents being able to provide children with religious instruction without interference from the state. But I also believe our schools are there to teach worldly knowledge and science. I believe in evolution, and I believe there's a difference between science and faith. That doesn't make faith any less important than science. It just means they're two different things. And I think it's a mistake to try to cloud the teaching of science with theories that frankly don't hold up to scientific inquiry."

I agree with him. I guess there's a first time for everything.

2 posted on 04/10/2008 10:58:00 PM PDT by Nipfan
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
I wouldn't go with this one...he's pretty much given a perfect answer. His following on the lead up to the Iraq war smells of the typical CNN distortion/brainwahing tho.

Not everyone stayed up nights breathing every word from C. Powell before we hit the ground in Basra. Obama must have been taking his required genius nap.

3 posted on 04/10/2008 10:58:45 PM PDT by Earthdweller (All reality is based on faith in something.)
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To: Nipfan

Welcome to Free Republic.


4 posted on 04/10/2008 11:12:56 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (McCain could never convince me to vote for him. Only Hillary or Obama can!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The entire answer is PC. Won’t take a stand for truth.


5 posted on 04/10/2008 11:14:21 PM PDT by LiteKeeper (Beware the secularization of America; the Islamization of Eurabia)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
That Obama opposes teaching ID and other nonscience in science classes is hardly surprising, but it is nice to have him clearly on record backing real science.

SARC: "real science" excludes, without proof, variables like God, Divine intelligence etc.? This by someone who professes to believe in "God."

What then does this "god" do, since he evidently created and controls nothing according to Obama? Perhaps he watches the abortions, Obama approves of, for entertainment.

6 posted on 04/10/2008 11:23:12 PM PDT by verklaring (Pyrite is not gold)
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"I believe in evolution, and I believe there's a difference between science and faith." --Barack Obama

Macroevolution ideas, such as the claim that single-cell organisms evolved into humans over billions of years, have never been substantiated by the consistent results of repeatable, scientific-method based experiments. This is evidenced by the fact that proper experimentation that would verify such claims would likewise take billions of years to conduct; an impossibility.

And in experiments where billions of years of organism evolution have been simulated, negative mutations suggested the opposite of what evolutionists are claiming.

The bottom line is that Obama is unthinkingly putting his faith into evolution as much as other people are putting their faith into things like intelligent design.

While this post (<-click) addresses religion and abortion issues, it provides missing pieces as to how FDR's politically correct knocking down of 10th A. protected state powers has arguably led to a generation of new age "thinkers" like Obama who don't understand the difference between faith and science. In other words, it helps to explain why Obama's blissful ignorance of the importance scientific method in verifying scientific facts is a consequence unconstitutional federal government interference in state affairs.

7 posted on 04/10/2008 11:25:48 PM PDT by Amendment10
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To: verklaring

There is also the view that the doings of God are beyond our comprehension and science is our way of understanding at least a part of the universe he created. None of that is valid, however, is the results of genuine scientific enquiry are overridden by faith based dogma.

After all, if God did create the world then there was a reason for giving us enquiring minds, reasoning ability and intelligence. Of course, speaking personally, we could have done without some of our very evident aggression but, then, who am I to question the Grand Design?


8 posted on 04/10/2008 11:32:00 PM PDT by Nipfan
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
suggesting that "religious Americans care only about issues like abortion and gay marriage; school prayer and intelligent design.

Hussein's sure got the Huckabots pegged.
9 posted on 04/11/2008 1:27:06 AM PDT by Uncle Ivan (I'm still with Fred)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Christianity and Evolution. Mutually exclusive.


10 posted on 04/11/2008 4:49:27 AM PDT by rjsimmon
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Placemarker


11 posted on 04/11/2008 8:29:16 AM PDT by Coyoteman (Religious belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
"I'm a Christian, and I believe in parents being able to provide children with religious instruction without interference from the state. But I also believe our schools are there to teach worldly knowledge and science. I believe in evolution, and I believe there's a difference between science and faith. That doesn't make faith any less important than science. It just means they're two different things. And I think it's a mistake to try to cloud the teaching of science with theories that frankly don't hold up to scientific inquiry."

Even a stopped clock is right twice a day.

12 posted on 04/11/2008 8:53:07 AM PDT by GunRunner
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To: LiteKeeper

You forgot to capitalize Truth.


13 posted on 04/11/2008 5:56:29 PM PDT by tokenatheist (Can I play with madness?)
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To: rjsimmon

How should I break the news to the evolutionists that I know who think that they are Christian that they aren’t ‘real’ Christians because they dare to use what they consider their god given intelligence?


14 posted on 04/11/2008 5:58:38 PM PDT by tokenatheist (Can I play with madness?)
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Looks like the evolution proponents are in good company NOT.


15 posted on 05/10/2008 8:32:17 PM PDT by Sun (Pray that God sends us good leaders. Please say a prayer now.)
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