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Is Obama's New Reverend Anti-Jewish?
March 23, 2008 | Allan J. Favish

Posted on 03/23/2008 4:44:01 PM PDT by AJFavish

A friend of mine sent me his comment on the "National Publican Radio" reference by Obama's new Reverend in today's sermon. See http://newsbusters.org/blogs/mark-finkelstein/2008/03/23/wright-replacement-calls-npr-national-publican-radio. I haven't verified it, but my friend is generally very accurate. You might want to check it out:

As a Roman history buff, I don't know how many other people will notice this, but when Rev. Moss calls NPR "National Publican Radio", there's an anti-Semitic crack buried in the reference. Publicans were Jewish tax collectors for the Romans.

This was the primary definition until a recent flurry of political correctness forced Webster's to delete the word "Jewish" from the entry. Since the word is uttered in the context of an Easter sermon, and calls CNN the "Roman News Network", it seems reasonable to assume that Moss intended "publican" in its traditional historical setting.


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To: Old Sarge
“Blacks are more racist than Whites.”

- Larry Elder, “The Ten Things You Can’t Say In America”

Only ten?....

21 posted on 03/23/2008 5:07:50 PM PDT by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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To: AJFavish

Is Obama’s New Reverend Anti-Jewish?

Do bears s*** in the woods?


22 posted on 03/23/2008 5:08:47 PM PDT by JustaCowgirl
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To: AJFavish

If John McCAin or any other white aspirant to major public office had a 20 year relationship in a church where the pastor and mentor preached racist diatribes......... well, you finish the sentence.


23 posted on 03/23/2008 5:13:10 PM PDT by umgud
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To: JustaCowgirl
Do bears s*** in the woods?

Where ever it is convenient and since they reside in the woods so yes, Obama's new reverend is antisemitic. ; )

24 posted on 03/23/2008 5:14:20 PM PDT by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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To: AJFavish
The word "publican" doesn't occur in the Bible. The term which is translated as "publican" in some English translations is telones in the Greek New Testament, meaning "tax-collector." (Zacchaeus in Luke 19 is an architelones or "chief tax-collector.")

St. Jerome rendered that as publicanus, a term for someone who farmed the public taxes. Generally a group of businessmen would bid for the right to collect the taxes--but these would be wealthy Roman citizens...the figures who show up in the New Testament are presumably their local agents, and a Roman of the first century might not have used the term publicanus of someone at that lower level. So the term "publican" doesn't have anything specifically Jewish about it--presumably all the Roman provinces would have had local people as subcontracters acting on behalf of the publicani.

25 posted on 03/23/2008 5:17:14 PM PDT by Verginius Rufus
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To: AJFavish
As a Roman history buff, I don't know how many other people will notice this, but when Rev. Moss calls NPR "National Publican Radio", there's an anti-Semitic crack buried in the reference. Publicans were Jewish tax collectors for the Romans. ... This was the primary definition until a recent flurry of political correctness forced Webster's to delete the word "Jewish" from the entry.

Publicans (publicani) were private individuals who received contracts from the Roman Republican or Imperial government to collect local taxes. It would be analogous to the U.S. Government giving a contract to H.&R. Block to collect U.S. federal taxes in, say, the entire State of Nebraska and giving John Doe a contract to collect U.S. federal taxes in, say, Bakersfield, California.

While most people have heard of the publicani through New Testament references and the majority of the publicani in Judea were Jewish, the publicani existed in the Roman Republic since the third century B.C. and, in each Roman province, the ethnicity and religion of the publicani would vary.

For a good discussion of the publicani, see:

E. Badian, Publicans and Sinners, Private Enterprise in the Service of the Roman Republic, 1972, Cornell University Press

Be that as it may, in the context of "National Publican Network", Rev. Moss is almost certainly using the term in the narrow focus of the fact that the only publicani mentioned in the New Testament were in Judea and were Jewish.

Webster's, however, was correct in deleting "Jewish" from the definition of "publican" as the local Celtic publicani in Gaul and the local Greek publicani in Attica had nothing in common with the local Jewish publicani in Judea except the that they all had tax collection contracts with the Roman Republican or Imperial government.

26 posted on 03/23/2008 5:24:02 PM PDT by Polybius
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To: AJFavish
Rev. Otis Moss III

There is no way any preacher at the church will be at odds with what Wright was saying. They may moderate the speech but the substance is the same.

27 posted on 03/23/2008 5:24:35 PM PDT by Anti-Bubba182
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To: BenLurkin

I agree with you that the whole “Jew controlled media”usually has anti-Semitic overtones,whether coming from right or left wing extremists.
Yet while acknowledging that fact,is it not true that people of Jewish background ARE represented in various forms of media at a higher percentage in the overall population than non Jews?
To me,this fact is very POSITIVE and is another example of Jewish success in the world.I truly think the root of most anti-Semitism is pure jealousy.


28 posted on 03/23/2008 5:25:41 PM PDT by Riverman94610
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To: AJFavish
Is Obama's New Reverend Anti-Jewish?

Is the Pope Catholic?

That would be my shot-from-the-hip comment if Otis is following
in the fine (SARC) tradition of Rev. Wright.
29 posted on 03/23/2008 5:28:07 PM PDT by VOA
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To: Old Sarge

Blacks more racist than whites?I really haven’t found that to be true in my sixty years on the planet.Some ARE and thats undeniable but overall I have felt very welcomed in most black environments,even in the hard core ghettos.The best example would be the years I was teaching in the Ninth Ward long ago.There were a few kids who prattled on about”can’t no white man teach me nothing” but most were very accepting and co-operative.
Even today when I go out to work part time at schools in my district it is rare to hear race baiting.95% of the drama comes from blacks beefing with blacks or Mexicans fighting Mexicans.Inter-racial strife is an anomaly.


30 posted on 03/23/2008 5:31:59 PM PDT by Riverman94610
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To: EGPWS
Do bears s*** in the woods?

Where ever it is convenient and since they reside in the woods so yes, Obama's new reverend is antisemitic. ; )

Seems like a pretty foregone conclusion, doesn't it?

Makes you wonder if these people sprouted the moonbats from Topeka.

31 posted on 03/23/2008 5:57:10 PM PDT by JustaCowgirl
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To: Lizavetta
“I'm starting to get the feeling that American blacks are like Muslims”

Muslims in Europe...

- Loyal to their culture/origin first
- Love the social programs
- Declare everyone else is racist
- Love a good riot

32 posted on 03/23/2008 6:00:17 PM PDT by ryan71
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To: AJFavish

As far as I can make out, Obama’s church appears to claim that Jesus was black, and that everybody else in the Bible story was evil. The Romans were evil. The Jews were evil.

This, of course, ignores the fact that Jesus was Jewish. But how can he be Jewish if he’s black?

This appears to be quite literal. It’s not uncommon for Indians to depict Jesus as Indian, and for Chinese to depict Jesus as Chinese, and Africans to depict Jesus as African, and so forth. It doesn’t mean that they take these portraits literally, just that they understandably like to depict Jesus in terms they are familiar with.

For instance, when my daughter was in Peru she saw portrayals of the Last Supper in local churches in which all the participants looked like Indians, and they were dining on guinea pigs. Nothing wrong with that, that’s what Peruvian Indians like to eat.

But Rev. Wright and his fellows appear to take this literally. Jesus is black, like them. But they hate the Jews, they hate the Romans, and they hate all whites.

Disturbing.


33 posted on 03/23/2008 6:06:16 PM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: AJFavish

Was Obama Ever a Muslim?

“I’ve always been a Christian,” said Obama, focusing on his own personal lack of practice of Islam as a child to deny any connection to Islam. But Muslims do not see practice as key. For them, that he was born to a line of Muslim males makes him born a Muslim. Further, all children born with an Arabic name based on the H-S-N trilateral root (Hussein, Hassan, and others) can be assumed to be Muslim, so they will understand Obama’s full name, Barack Hussein Obama, to proclaim him a born Muslim.

More: family and friends considered him as a child to be Muslim. In “Obama Debunks Claim About Islamic School,” Nedra Pickler of the Associated Press wrote on January 24, 2007, that

Obama’s mother, divorced from Obama’s father, married a man from Indonesia named Lolo Soetoro, and the family relocated to the country from 1967-71. At first, Obama attended the Catholic school, Fransiskus Assisis, where documents showed he enrolled as a Muslim, the religion of his stepfather. The document required that each student choose one of five state-sanctioned religions when registering – Muslim, Hindu, Buddhist, Catholic or Protestant.

Asked about this, Obama communications director Robert Gibbs responded by indicating to Pickler that

he wasn’t sure why the document had Obama listed as a Muslim. “Senator Obama has never been a Muslim.”

Two months later, Paul Watson of the Los Angeles Times (available online in a Baltimore Sun reprint) reported that the Obama campaign had retreated from that absolute statement and instead issued a more nuanced one: “Obama has never been a practicing Muslim.” The Times looked into the matter further and learned more about his Indonesian interlude:

His former Roman Catholic and Muslim teachers, along with two people who were identified by Obama’s grade-school teacher as childhood friends, say Obama was registered by his family as a Muslim at both schools he attended. That registration meant that during the third and fourth grades, Obama learned about Islam for two hours each week in religion class.

The childhood friends say Obama sometimes went to Friday prayers at the local mosque. “We prayed but not really seriously, just following actions done by older people in the mosque. But as kids, we loved to meet our friends and went to the mosque together and played,” said Zulfin Adi. … Obama’s younger sister, Maya Soetoro, said in a statement released by the campaign that the family attended the mosque only “for big communal events,” not every Friday.

Recalling Obama’s time in Indonesia, the Times account contains quotes that Obama “went to the mosque,” and that he “was Muslim.”

Summarized, available evidence suggests Obama was born a Muslim to a non-practicing Muslim father and for some years had a reasonably Muslim upbringing under the auspices of his Indonesian step-father. At some point, he converted to Christianity. It appears false to state, as Obama does, “I’ve always been a Christian” and “I’ve never practiced Islam.” The campaign appears to be either ignorant or fabricating when it states that “Obama never prayed in a mosque.”-Daniel Pipes


34 posted on 03/23/2008 6:08:17 PM PDT by Rome2000 (Peace is not an option)
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To: Lizavetta
I'm starting to get the feeling that American blacks are like Muslims - can't get along with anybody not like them.

No. Just those sucked in by the Red cult master W.E.B. DuBoise and his NAACP.

35 posted on 03/23/2008 6:10:09 PM PDT by fso301
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To: Cicero

Obama was born a Muslim, prayed to Mecca as a child, and is now lying about it.


36 posted on 03/23/2008 6:10:31 PM PDT by Rome2000 (Peace is not an option)
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To: Lizavetta
I'm starting to get the feeling that American blacks are like Muslims - can't get along with anybody not like them.

I think its safe to say that Obamas church is really just the Christian branch of the Nation of islum.

They even have the same bowtie thing going, these people are Farrakhan with a Cross around their neck.


37 posted on 03/23/2008 6:14:07 PM PDT by Rome2000 (Peace is not an option)
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To: AJFavish
I watched a bit of the “preacher” speaking today. He's horrible! He can shimmy, bounce, duck, bob, and quiver; but he never takes his eyes off of his script. He looked down the whole time. He needs a teleprompter, so he can pretend that he's not reading every word.
38 posted on 03/23/2008 6:22:29 PM PDT by bannie (clintons CHEAT! It's their only weapon.)
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To: Riverman94610
You see, you missed the irony...

Larry Elder can say that in his book, because he's black. I, as a Typical White Guytm, cannot.

I guess his book needs a re-title: "The Ten Things a Typical White Guytm Can't Say In America".

39 posted on 03/23/2008 6:33:41 PM PDT by Old Sarge (CTHULHU '08 - I won't settle for a lesser evil any longer!)
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To: bannie

Baraq Hussein Obama never did have any upbringing by his parents and he really showed that in his speech. Anyone with any sense would have left Jeremiah Wright, the very first time that he was heard to speak. It seems that Obama does not even know right from wrong. And that is a most basic thing, no matter who you are.


40 posted on 03/23/2008 6:38:24 PM PDT by tessalu
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