Marxine Waters (D-Watts,CA)
"No Obama, no peace!"
no yitbos
Posted on 03/22/2008 8:08:21 AM PDT by Jeff Head
Despite the efforts of most of the main stream media (and Obama himself) trying to spin the incidents regarding Barack Obama's preacher and spiritual advisor into something acceptable to Americans, and his speech regarding race, by doing some individualresearch, it becomes clear that the spin will simply just not wash.
The Trinity Church subscribes to Black Liberation Theology. I believe that Obama will not leave that Church for one simple and obvious reason. Despite his new found disgust in "some" terminology that Wright employed, Obama must agree with the theology that the church teaches. He is raising his kids in it, and intends to stay with it.
Most of us feel strongly about the Christian churches we attend. If the clergy depart from the theology that we accept in our hearts, we leave them and find a congregation and doctrine that we subscribe to and will make better men and women of us (through the atonement of Jesus Christ) and allow us to help others. If the clergy sticks with the theology we accept in our hearts, we stay with them.
Obama is staying with the Trinity Church and continues to remain close to Wright, despite Wright's disgusting statements...and not statements from one or two sermons alone. No, Reverend Wright is an adrent supporter and preacher of Black Liberation Theology which is at the heart of who he is and what he has said.
This same Black Liberation theology subscribed to by Trinity is clearly what Obama subscribes to. His actions in this regard tell us as much.
He's been going and donating to that particular church for over twenty yerars. As stated, he is raising his kids in it, immersing them...baptising them into it. And Reverend Wright has done the immersing and baptising.
That church has done a lot of good in the black community, helping them to rise socially. But the underlying doctrine must be understood in order to bring into focus the good it does and reconcile it against the hate its preacher also spreads.
That theology can easily be reconciled to its good actions in the black community and the hateful rhetoric is emplys by simply studying it. This is something the most of the main stream media has either not done, or refuses to do, because the underlying doctrine is so repulsive that it should negate any major candidate in any way closely associated with it. Again, Black Liberation Theology is the admitted theology of Reverend Wright and the congregation. It is something that has helped form Obama and his views and it is therefore worthwhile to understand if we intend to consider him for all of our President.
It is not your traditional Christian message in the least.
Wright admits that he preaches his brand of that theology which is based, in part, on the works of one James Hal Cone, the recognized pioneer in the black brand of this theology, and who has been the Charles Augustus Briggs Distinguished Professor of Systematic Theology at Union Theological Seminary in the City of New York.
Wright refered to Cone and his "pioneering" efforts in his contentious interveiw with Sean Hannity on Fox News in 2007, HERE.
Cone himself is much written and describes that theology in his book A Black Theology for Liberation, which is one of many books he has written. One notable quote in that book decribing Cone's interpretation of Black Christian Theology that he calls Black Liberation Theology is as follows:
"Black theology refuses to accept a God who is not identified totally with the goals of the black community. If God is not for us and against white people, then he is a murderer, and we had better kill him. The task of black theology is to kill Gods who do not belong to the black community ... Black theology will accept only the love of God which participates in the destruction of the white enemy. What we need is the divine love as expressed in Black Power, which is the power of black people to destroy their oppressors here and now by any means at their disposal. Unless God is participating in this holy activity, we must reject his love."
That theology accepts a perverted and wrested interpretation of Jesus Christ where it describes him as a poor black man (or man of color) living under oppressive white European rule (the Romans) and that he was as much about social change and bringing down government as he was about spiritual liberation. He therefore meets Cone's (and adherants to this perverted view of our Savior) criteria for a God who supports their black power insurgency against what they describe as the ruling rich white men and women in America.
This interpretation perverts the love of all men, the peace, the forgiveness, and inner focus (spiritual focus) of Christ and His atonement which teaches us that the change His atonement brings about within us, which heals us spiritually, creates a new man fashioned after Christ who teaches by example, love, and long suffering.
Speaking of these qualities, Cone sarcastically states in the book:
"There is no use for a God who loves white oppressors the same as oppressed blacks. We have had too much of white love, the love that tells blacks to turn the other cheek and go the second mile."
As if this love, and Christ's own words regarding it are somehow a construct of the white race to keep people of color down. Disgusting, and really very, very tragic that people are being raised on this hate...because that is exactly what it is...and Cone says so.
"Black hatred is the black man's strong aversion to white society. No black man living in white America can escape it... While it is true that blacks do hate whites, black hatred is not racism. "
Thus Black Liberation Theology changes Christ, the God of peace and love, into a God of their own construction, a God of hate and revenge, who is hell bent on political and social change at any cost and who supports that hate and "revenge" to suit their needs.
This is the message about Obama's "church" (and others like it) that needs to be spread. I do not believe it is at all subscribed to by most blacks in this country, and certainly not by society at large. But it has been hidden, growing...festering, and flying under the radar in these radical churches and because of political correctness it has been heretofore untouchable. But now the cat is out of the bag.
It is shocking, is is disgusting...and it is dangerous.
It is in no way related to, or a derivitve of American foreign policy or society. The fact is America, despite its problems and mistakes, has set more people free (even through a horrific civil war of our own) and and given them individual liberty (and thus individual accountability) and therefore truly assisted more people's on this earth than any other nation on it.
...and there is the rub. Christ teaches that all men are created equal and that they are individsually responsible for their actions with an inate ability to "Come unto Him" and be free. The American constituion, despite changes that required fire and blood to address (and, OBTW, that blood was shed in the civil war principally by white men fighting to to, among other things, preserve the Union and free the blacks), sets down in law the same principles.
This theology, Black Liberation Theology, is a blatant attempt to mix and wrest and perevert Christianity into a construct for the age old battle against individual rights. It is a Marxist ideological, collective, and ultimately tyranical construct committed to destroying individual freedom.
This same type of liberation theology has been used for decades in Latin America to pervert Catholics and goad them into rising into Marxist rebellions in class warfare.
That is what this is...and it is the version accepted and practised by black radicals in this country and it is intent on changing this country into a socio-marxist state where wealth, opportunity, and position are not earned by individuals, but instead are handed out by the state...and in this case they simply want to be the ones in control of redistributing it all for their purposes and what they call "their" people.
Systematic Theology
By Charles Hodge, D.D.,
Professor in the Theological Seminary, Princeton, New Jersey
New York: Scribner, Armstrong, and Co.
Successors to
Charles Scribner & Co.
London & Edinbrugh: T. Nelson and Sons.
1873
The entire book is available online here: http://books.google.com/books?hl=en&id=0TEkThdhYcIC&dq=systematic+theology&printsec=frontcover&source=web&ots=lmGRRTwpss&sig=dQpZwuDKq2HbLCzArsZDR7nfxp4
Very dumbed-down definition from Wikipedia:
Systematic theology is the attempt to formulate a coherent philosophy which is applicable to the component parts of a given faith's system of belief. Inherent to a system of theological thought is that a method is developed, one which can be applied both broadly and particularly. While a systematic theology must take into account the sacred texts of its faith, it also looks to history, philosophy, science, and ethics to produce as full a view and as versatile a philosophical approach as possible.
Looks like the "modern" Systematic Theology is a highly corrupted interpretation of a seminal theological work from the late 19th cent.
His current research focuses on “The Cross and the Lynching Tree,” exploring the relationship between the two theologically.
Their both bottom or the barrel to me. Just above pedophiles and murderers.
Agreed...but, as you know my friend, we already are in deep trouble. It’s just that this guy would make it a whole lot deeper and a steeper hole (as would Hillary for that matter), particularly if the American people are hornswaggled and blinded into electing him.
If he is elected....I shudder to think. A man who snuggles up with racist haters and Weather Underground bombers. A man who is at his core a Marxist. Well, maybe that’s what it will take to force shock therapy on the USA. The question is, can America survive such shock therapy?
I pray God in Heaven to continue to support our nation with His hand so that we can get back to our foundational republican principles.
PING!
Thanks for the ping. The more the merrier, particularly as the information gets passed along over the cyber-waves.
BTW, just purchased and saw for the first time “I am Legend” with Will Smith. Great, intense movie. Really liked it.
While the message in that YouTube video needs to get out, all the “editing hyperbole” is extremely distracting.
MM
Thanks for your work on this, Jeff. I didn’t realize the perversion of Christianity went that far, but certainly have no problem believing it.
This is an issue on which we should launch a relentless bombardment of the MSM until they relent and report. Yes, it’s a VERY tall order, but it needs to be done.
MM
“Black hatred is the black man’s strong aversion to white society. No black man living in white America can escape it... While it is true that blacks do hate whites, black hatred is not racism. “
Cone is the spiritual father of Wright, who is the spiritual father of Barack HUSSEIN Obama.
That’s all we need to know.
Exactly...the branches of the tree are clear and the acorn has not fallen far from the root.
You are exactly right MM. I have been emailing the info out to everyone I can think of...it is something that can have an impact if enough of us do it, and if enough of those whom we pass it on to do the same...and so forth and so on.
...and the main scream media always loves a chance to trash religion! even trumps the “if it bleeds it leads” story, sometimes!
Which begs the question...since liberalism is a suicidal mental illness, can cognitive dissonance by those who have already voted for the hater-in-chief, allow them to vote for him again in November?
Marxine Waters (D-Watts,CA)
"No Obama, no peace!"
no yitbos
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