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To: Smokin' Joe
[We can make anti-gun congressmen pay at the polls....]

Two points. First, by then, the damage is done. Frankly, it would be best prevented in the first place.

Ofcourse, we should elect members of Congress who are strongly pro-gun.

But we can roll back gun control laws as well as we have recently done.

Frankly, more heat has to be put on the NRA to stop compromising over these issues.

Once they take your rights, You do not get them back. At least not since 1934. (Remember, the AWB was a rare exception--the only gun control with a sunset clause).

Yes, but the states have been doing very well in passing pro gun legislation.

We have most states with a right to carry law.

Second: I would love to have the faith in the SCOTUS some here have, but who would have thought emminent domain meant for the government to sieze your property so someone else could tear down your perfectly good house to put in an upscale mall and condos because the public would benefit from the higher tax base? (Kelo). So, until the decision is handed down and carved in stone, I'm not going to put all my eggs in the Court's basket, either. Firearms I can purchase here with no permit to buy run the gamut. Because I hold a Concealed Carry Permit in my state, there is no hassle and I leave with my firearm the same day. Any firearm I can afford, anyway (Still saving up my pennies for Class III). So, by the standards of 'us hicks', Mass. gun laws are draconian. A compromise like that here would have resulted in a recall campaign.

I agree, that law would never fly in pro-gun states, but if the people of that state want it that way it is up to them.

As long as the gun laws aren't made federal, and left up to the individual states, I see no problem with dealing with them as such.

Now, hopefully, the SCOTUS might actually rule in our favor and overturn all of the anti-gun laws in those states as being unconstitutional, which is what happened in DC.

But the point is that any GOP President is better on this issue then any Democrat and as gun owners we cannot afford to let the Democrats regain control of the White House and we need to regain the Congress.

220 posted on 01/25/2008 2:47:05 PM PST by fortheDeclaration (The power under the Constitution will always be in the people- George Washington)
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To: fortheDeclaration
But we can roll back gun control laws as well as we have recently done.

What Federal Gun Control laws have been rolled back recently? Did I miss something?

Keep in mind, that your idea has some serious flaws. For starters, if the Government succeeds in making semi-automatic ("assault") rifles illegal to own, there will be one heck of a lot of those rifles destroyed. There will, of course, be people killed trying to defend their God-given rights, and trying to infringe upon them.

No amount of electoral pandering will fix that. The legislature, at any level, won't bring the dead back to life, restore the firearms to their owners (likely destroyed en masse), or fix lives.

All I see here is another slick attempt to convince people to take another step down the road to totalitarianism.

"It's Okay, you can always turn around, you can go back", is not a puersuasive argument for me at this point.

You see, my grandfather taught me to shoot a rifle when I was a young man. In that area, now, he would have been violating a host of laaws for handing me a rifle, a cartridge, and shooting on the beach where we went to shoot, even though we endangered no one. He was very careful and would not have allowed me to shoot had there been anyone within a mile or visible in that direction (in a boat on the water).

My uncle had bought a rifle that same year, he put the money order in the envelope with the order form, addressed it, and put the 4 cent stamo on it, and a few weeks later, here was his rifle, delivered by the United States' Post Office.

Now, that is the freedom I recall.

When we get that back, you can tell me how easy it is to put the right back.

One bad SCOTUS ruling, a fast frenzy by the anti-gunners, and some well televised blood in the streets, and you will not recognize this country.

You can't repeal the consequences, and if history is any guide, the reaction to the law will be used as the justification for more.

There is no good done at the State level which cannot be undone by people who would not know freedom from dog poop at the Federal level.

"Stroke of the pen, law of the land...kinda cool" may have been the remark of a Democrat, but I can see where Republicans would buy into that (especially lately when the idea of a set stance on issues and a party platform is being tossed out at every turn).As for anti-gun Congressmen, there should be no such thing, except in personal emotion. To vote that way is a violation of their oath of office to protect and defend the Constitution. Which is why, frankly, none of the Republican front 4, and especially not the Democrats, have any credibility with me as candidates whatsoever.

I have seen this sort of medicine show skunk oil sales nonsense before. As they say in these parts, this ain't my first rodeo.

I'm not buying.

257 posted on 01/25/2008 9:05:25 PM PST by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly.)
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