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Mitt Romney And The Second Amendment
lonestartimes ^ | 2/25/2008

Posted on 01/25/2008 9:59:59 AM PST by JRochelle

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To: Gilbo_3

That’s just the fact. If you owned a gun that was listed in the AWB bill BEFORE the bill took effect, you could keep it. The ban was on the PURCHASE of the gun, not the OWNERSHIP of the gun.

I’ve never owned a gun, but I almost bought an AK-47 from a friend of mine right before the ban, just in case I decided I needed one later.


201 posted on 01/25/2008 2:17:17 PM PST by CharlesWayneCT
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To: Dead Corpse
I personally invite you to move to MA and do more to advance gun owners' interest than Mitt did.

Let me know how that goes for you.

202 posted on 01/25/2008 2:18:54 PM PST by mbraynard
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To: JRochelle

Gun grabber bump for later


203 posted on 01/25/2008 2:20:38 PM PST by JDoutrider (No 2nd Amendment... Know Tyranny)
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To: Gilbo_3

He worked with the gun groups that would be effected by the compromise, came to an agreement everybody thought would be best, and implemented it.

Yes, in the real world where we all live, you sometimes don’t get everything that you want, and compromising is better than not.

It’s not about “rights he swore to uphold”. At this time, no court has found AWBs to be unconstitutional anyway, even if they should be.

Some people want to tilt at windmills.


204 posted on 01/25/2008 2:20:44 PM PST by CharlesWayneCT
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To: mbraynard

ANYONE can drink the Kool-aid and many on this forum do.


205 posted on 01/25/2008 2:20:46 PM PST by greyfoxx39 (Salvation is NOT a value-added enterprise by making you pay for it. Christ gives it away free.)
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To: JRochelle

No, I think instead I’ll just keep pointing out that every word out of your mouth is a blatant lie and that you support the only candidate running who supports amending the 1st amendment to the constitution and wants judge Wapner to handle Osama’s trial.


206 posted on 01/25/2008 2:20:58 PM PST by mbraynard
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To: CharlesWayneCT

You’re welcome.


207 posted on 01/25/2008 2:21:29 PM PST by Leisler
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To: mbraynard

How can we protect the 1st amendment when your guy is blasting the 2nd?


208 posted on 01/25/2008 2:23:22 PM PST by JRochelle (John Thune in 2012.)
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To: LiveFree99

OK. So John McCain gets a C+ for his record on 2nd AMDT. Jewelyannie is worse, Dems are worse than him. So who is your pick; Ron Paul?


209 posted on 01/25/2008 2:23:46 PM PST by westmichman ( God said: "They cry 'peace! peace!' but there is no peace. Jeremiah 6:14)
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To: jmc813
Ron Paul would never pull crap like this.

Yeah, FReepers got a real conservative to vote for finally, one with the record to back it up.

But noooo...Oooga Booga! Cavemen half a world away is scaring them, so let's just vote for the RINO who'll protect us from these evil creatures. Never mind the fact that Paul still supports a strong military and will still leave behind a contigency of troops to specifically go after bin Laden.

It's absolutely sickening.

210 posted on 01/25/2008 2:26:15 PM PST by Extremely Extreme Extremist
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To: greyfoxx39

What Kool-aid?


211 posted on 01/25/2008 2:26:41 PM PST by mbraynard
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To: Gilbo_3; CharlesWayneCT
Slow down Chuck, if you spin that sh!t any faster you'll need a grease fitting...

Uh, without wanting to defend the AWB (I despise the very concept of gun control - check out my FR homepage, past posts and links if you don't believe that), what Charles said is accurate. The AWB banned the acquisition of certain named models, of firearms, or firearms with a combination of certain named features (no matter the name) manufactured after a certain date in 1994. Ditto for magazines of greater than 10 rounds in capacity. You could get anything manufactured beforehand (remember the huge advertisements for PRE-BANS), if you were willing to pony up between 2 and 10 times the original price of the items (which was, IMHO, the point of the whole exercise).

Please, let's deal with facts as facts. I didn't like the fact of the AWB and I don't like the fact that gun-banning SOBs are in Congress, running for President, in the bureaucracy, in the media, the churches and synogogues, etc., but those are FACTS. Work to change future facts, don't bad-mouth someone who accurately represents facts as they were/are.

That being said, I'm no Romney fan. I MAY still end up voting for him, on the theory that he's not as bad as the rest of those wuckfits running for President.

212 posted on 01/25/2008 2:28:28 PM PST by Ancesthntr (An ex-citizen of the Frederation trying to stop Monica's Ex-Boyfriend's Wife from becoming President)
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To: JRochelle
No amount of guns will change McCain's vote for and support of a Constitutional amendment to repeal the 1st amendment. And how do you expect to be vocal in defending the 2nd when McCain has taken your right of speech away through McCain Feingold.

And if you think Mitt Romney is going to take your guns away, your bigger concern is probably the government putting floride in your water and brain washing you.

213 posted on 01/25/2008 2:28:58 PM PST by mbraynard
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To: mbraynard

So he’s wrong about the price of Romney’s extortion. Myth is still wrong about the Second Amendment.

If you hate the Second, you hate them all.

Myth hates them all.


214 posted on 01/25/2008 2:29:48 PM PST by the gillman@blacklagoon.com (And close the damned borders!)
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To: mbraynard

Another hour, another post by me!

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1959667/posts?page=2#2


215 posted on 01/25/2008 2:31:30 PM PST by JRochelle (John Thune in 2012.)
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To: ohioarmedneutrality
Ron Paul is the only GOP candidate still in the running that is 100% reliable on 2nd Amendment.

FReepers don't care about Paul's 2nd Amendment stand that'll put everyone else's to shame. They don't care about withdrawing from the UN and abolishing entire federal departments and agencies. As long as we continue fighting a war that should have been over and done with months ago is all that matters.

216 posted on 01/25/2008 2:33:12 PM PST by Extremely Extreme Extremist
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To: fortheDeclaration
We can make anti-gun congressmen pay at the polls....

Two points. First, by then, the damage is done. Frankly, it would be best prevented in the first place.

Once they take your rights, You do not get them back. At least not since 1934. (Remember, the AWB was a rare exception--the only gun control with a sunset clause).

Second:

I would love to have the faith in the SCOTUS some here have, but who would have thought emminent domain meant for the government to sieze your property so someone else could tear down your perfectly good house to put in an upscale mall and condos because the public would benefit from the higher tax base? (Kelo).

So, until the decision is handed down and carved in stone, I'm not going to put all my eggs in the Court's basket, either. Firearms I can purchase here with no permit to buy run the gamut. Because I hold a Concealed Carry Permit in my state, there is no hassle and I leave with my firearm the same day. Any firearm I can afford, anyway (Still saving up my pennies for Class III).

So, by the standards of 'us hicks', Mass. gun laws are draconian. A compromise like that here would have resulted in a recall campaign.

217 posted on 01/25/2008 2:37:50 PM PST by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly.)
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To: Steamburg
I don’t see any of the candidates as being particularly Pro-Second Amendment. Remember, with little provocation, Huckster, wanted the Federal Government to ban public smoking. I don’t think it would take much to panic that Nanny into an unconstitutional gun ban. Rudy, has always been Anti-Second Amendment. He seems to have only recently offered to mollify his position for the fly-over country. McCain seems to be part of the Kennedy wing of the GOP so we are back to Romney as being no worse and possibly better than his counterparts.

Agreed. I'm a very disappointed Fred Thompson/Ronald Reagan Republican but, then again, I've been that way since very early in 1989 when Bush 41 stabbed gun owners in the back with his EO banning imports, the elitist, opportunistic SOB. But SOMEONE is going to be President, and without a clear difference between any of the Republicans on guns, I'll side with the person who seems to make the most sense on other issues. Heck, even if you believe Huckabee on guns, he's so Carter-like and such a nanny-stater and has so little knowledge about foreign affairs that I simply cannot vote for him. As far as I'm concerned, he doomed Fred's campaign by stealing away a lot of otherwise conservative people that make religious/social issues their most important factor in voting.

And they are ALL better than the Democraps, even McStain or Julie-Annie.

218 posted on 01/25/2008 2:39:22 PM PST by Ancesthntr (An ex-citizen of the Frederation trying to stop Monica's Ex-Boyfriend's Wife from becoming President)
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To: Gondring
Thanks for the ping...there is just too much venom on this thread for me to read through it.

I saw the entire debate last night and I am satisfied with my decision!

219 posted on 01/25/2008 2:41:37 PM PST by jan in Colorado ("It's easier to believe a lie one hears 1,000 times than to believe a fact that one has never heard)
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To: Smokin' Joe
[We can make anti-gun congressmen pay at the polls....]

Two points. First, by then, the damage is done. Frankly, it would be best prevented in the first place.

Ofcourse, we should elect members of Congress who are strongly pro-gun.

But we can roll back gun control laws as well as we have recently done.

Frankly, more heat has to be put on the NRA to stop compromising over these issues.

Once they take your rights, You do not get them back. At least not since 1934. (Remember, the AWB was a rare exception--the only gun control with a sunset clause).

Yes, but the states have been doing very well in passing pro gun legislation.

We have most states with a right to carry law.

Second: I would love to have the faith in the SCOTUS some here have, but who would have thought emminent domain meant for the government to sieze your property so someone else could tear down your perfectly good house to put in an upscale mall and condos because the public would benefit from the higher tax base? (Kelo). So, until the decision is handed down and carved in stone, I'm not going to put all my eggs in the Court's basket, either. Firearms I can purchase here with no permit to buy run the gamut. Because I hold a Concealed Carry Permit in my state, there is no hassle and I leave with my firearm the same day. Any firearm I can afford, anyway (Still saving up my pennies for Class III). So, by the standards of 'us hicks', Mass. gun laws are draconian. A compromise like that here would have resulted in a recall campaign.

I agree, that law would never fly in pro-gun states, but if the people of that state want it that way it is up to them.

As long as the gun laws aren't made federal, and left up to the individual states, I see no problem with dealing with them as such.

Now, hopefully, the SCOTUS might actually rule in our favor and overturn all of the anti-gun laws in those states as being unconstitutional, which is what happened in DC.

But the point is that any GOP President is better on this issue then any Democrat and as gun owners we cannot afford to let the Democrats regain control of the White House and we need to regain the Congress.

220 posted on 01/25/2008 2:47:05 PM PST by fortheDeclaration (The power under the Constitution will always be in the people- George Washington)
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