Terry Anderson LIVE Thread - January 20, 2008

RON PAUL!

Yep!

the hell of it is , if we back Ron Paul we won’t have a country to guard!!!

Moonbats have escaped from the asylum and set up a phone bank?

G’nite!

I’m so glad you’re around, RM.

I already have my ballot. It still has an oval for Duncan Hunter. I really wish I had another choice now, but I don’t. So it’s still going to be Hunter. For the general election, I’m not sure, but I might have to skip that office. What a sickening election this is.

I know how distasteful you find this. I sure do.

But you have to vote realistically, like it or not.

Pick the one who you think will be the best on National Security which includes illegal immigration and vote for them.

You know it won’t be a Demrat or McCain or the Huckster, so go with the one who you think is politically smart enough to go with the public will despite their history.

A vote in the dumster is two for Her Thighness.

Exactly.

Mitt Romney vetoed in-state tuition for illegal aliens while he was governor.

Mitt Romney opposed driver licenses for illegal aliens while he was governor.

Mitt Romney supported the training of state law enforcement officers to enforce federal immigration laws while he was governor.

Mitt Romney as governor supported English immersion while governor.

Here is what Roy Beck of NumbersUSA had to say to Michigan voters: concerned about immigration. A copy of this letter can be seen at http://www.bconservatives.blogspot.com/.

DEAR MICHIGAN VOTERS CONCERNED ABOUT IMMIGRATION,

If stopping illegal immigration and preventing an amnesty are top priorities for you, the latest ratings in the right-hand column make it quite clear two candidates who don’t deserve your vote in the Michigan Republican Presidential Primary on Tuesday.

As for who deserves your vote based on immigration ... all the other GOP candidates are much better in the details of their promises to stop any amnesty and to make the 12-20 million illegal aliens already here go back home. Look over their ratings for yourself.

(Since there are questions about whether Michigan’s Democratic Primary will have any meaning, you Democrats — and certainly you Independents — may want to vote in the Republican contest to ensure that as many anti-amnesty votes are cast for anti-amnesty candidates as possible.)

You can view our ratings in 16 immigration categories for all Democratic and Republican candidates on the same page at:
Presidential Immigration Ratings

Please print out this Alert — and also the GRID — and share them with as many voters as possible. Post the copies on bulletin boards and hand out to others.

ROMNEY & THOMPSON HIGHLIGHT
McCAIN’S AMNESTY POSITION

I’m not sure I’ve seen a more clarifying moment on amnesty in the last year than the back-to-back comments by Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.), Gov. Mitt Romney (R-Mass.) and Sen. Fred Thompson (R-Tenn.) in Thursday night’s debate in South Carolina.

Watch this illuminating exchange on:
Romney & McCain Video

Then watch Thompson’s followup on:
Thompson Video

No candidate has done more advertising against amnesty or more raising of the issue in debates than Romney, who has constantly tried to make sure that nobody forgets McCain’s role as the architect of two years of giant amnesty bills in Congress.

But in the South Carolina debate, it was the moderator who first put McCain on the spot: “Senator McCain, the president’s push for immigration reform failed mainly because of disagreements over your plan for dealing with the 12 million people now here illegally. You say you’ve learned your lesson, you’d secure the borders first. OK. Then how would you deal with the illegals?”

McCain has avoided answering that question for months, and almost succeeded again Thursday night. But when you closely parse what he said, you can see the McCain Amnesty Position:

1. McCain believes there was nothing wrong with the Comprehensive Amnesty legislation that American citizens defeated in the Senate last spring.

2. McCain suggests that the reason citizens opposed his Comprehensive Amnesty bill was not because they oppose legalizing illegal aliens but because they don’t trust the government to secure our borders.

3. McCain promises to secure our borders and to aggressively deport about 2 million illegal aliens who have gotten into additional trouble with the law.

4. McCain will allow all the rest of the 12-20 million illegal aliens to remain permanently in the United States — at least, he refuses to say that any of them have to go home.

Romney’s and Thompson’s description of what they would do with the illegal aliens provided a great contrast that surely helped most watchers of the debate see that McCain remains the Amnesty King that he has been for years.

in this email:

AMNESTY RATINGS
How Good Are The Promises of GOP Candidates to Prevent Amnesties & Send Current Illegal Aliens Home?

Abysmal
# John McCain

Bad
# Rudy Giuliani

Fair
# Mike Huckabee

GOOD
# Ron Paul

EXCELLENT
# Mitt Romney
# Fred Thompson
# Duncan Hunter

NOTE: These ratings are explained at this web page. On that page, you can click on the photo of any candidate and see an entire page devoted to that person’s immigration promises and past actions. The amnesty rating is based on promises both not to give illegal aliens a path to citizenship and to make them go home.
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actions in brief:
# Michiganders, please vote in your Primary on Tuesday.

# Michigan voters, please be sure that all your colleagues and friends know of John McCain’s pro-amnesty record and promises.

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McCAIN RE-DEFINES ‘AMNESTY’ SO HE CAN CONTINUE TO WORK FOR REWARDS FOR ILLEGAL ALIENS

After his leadership for amnesties knocked him out of his front-runner status last spring, it seems like many Americans forgot about his role. How else to explain that Sen. McCain (R-Ariz.) has suddenly become the front-runner in the national polls for the Republican nomination?

Recent private polling that I’ve seen suggests that large numbers of voters who strongly want illegal aliens to go home are not aware that Sen. McCain intends to allow most of the illegal aliens to remain permanently in this country.

In part, that may be because McCain in nationally televised debates and in campaign stops has said that he has never — and will never — support “amnesty.” It is difficult for even the most cynical voters to believe that a candidate would tell a direct lie in such public settings.

But McCain justifies his claims by re-defining what “amnesty” means. According to McCain, it isn’t amnesty to allow illegal aliens to live here permanently and keep American jobs, if you make them pay a fine and learn English.

As Romney pointed out on last Sunday’s talk shows, that is a mighty big reward for law-breaking, whatever you call it. And as Thompson said Sunday night, rewarding illegal aliens with the right to stay will just entice millions more to come.

We at NumbersUSA have kept track of all of Sen. McCain’s efforts to flood American occupations and communities with foreign workers and their dependents.

To read a summary of McCain’s immigration actions and links to the details, go here:
McCain’s Preference for Illegal Aliens Over American Workers

I hope all the information that our NumbersUSA team has gathered for you on the GRID and Candidates pages will be helpful to you as you decide how to vote.

We will continue to modify the GRID as candidates change.

SINCERELY,

Roy Beck

Roy Beck of NumbersUSA has assessed the positions of all the presidential candidates on several immigration-related issues. Below are a portion of Roy Beck’s assessment of Gov. Romney’s policy positions on several immigration-related issues.

No amnesty - EXCELLENT

Stop future illegal immigration - EXCELLENT

Mandatory workplace verification - GOOD

Punish employers who hire illegal aliens - GOOD

Local enforcement of federal immigration laws - EXCELLENT

More security at borders - EXCELLENT

End sanctuary cities - EXCELLENT

Prohibit states from issuing driver’s licenses to illegal aliens - EXCELLENT

Prohibit in-state tuition to illegal aliens - EXCELLENT

John McCain and Rudy Giuliani are both rated abysmal on the issue of “No amnesty” by NumbersUSA. Mitt Romney is rated excellent by NumbersUSA on that issue by NumbersUSA.

Anyone who liked arnold, is ok with me.

It demonstrates a panoramic, logical, long term view of what works.

My Dad loved AP.

God be with us.

You gotta deal with the hand you are dealt, not the hand you would have liked.

Works for me. I prefer Hunter, but apparently, that is not reasonable.

We cannot CANNOT be pissy and demand what we can’t have, and as a result get what nobody wants.