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To: broncobilly; Greg F; All; greyfoxx39; colorcountry; JRochelle; FastCoyote; MHGinTN; Elsie; ...
He [Romney] was earlier pro-choice. He has never been pro-abortion. Do you know the difference?

Well, let's see. Let's go back to the Lincoln-Douglas debates of 1859. Douglas was for the "choice" of allowing both Southern states & new territories own slaves if a person so "chose." Lincoln, thinking it was untenable to meddle with the Southern states, at least stood firmly against allowing slavery at all in the new states. So Lincoln was for "no choice" in slavery in the new states, roundly criticizing the Dred Scott Supreme Court decision.

So would you, BB, be consistent in sizing up Douglas: Was he, simply "pro-choice" on slavery? You mean to tell us all that Douglas was never "pro-slavery" and that there's a difference between someone saying...

"Yes, oh, I'd never own a slave myself but I'll 'vow' & 'devote' & 'commit' myself [vow,devote, commit were Romney's own words] to 'sustain' [another Romney word] the law of the land as found in Dred Scott, which says that blacks are but mere 'chattel' (property) & that others--not me, never mind you, have the right to own others."

Is this what you're saying? You can be "pro-choice" on slavery without being "pro-slavery?"

BB: Mormonism is not a cult any more than Christianity is a cult. And I think you are being narrow minded.

OK, well, you, BB, have just forever cut off any right you have to call the polygamous fundamentalist Mormons a "cult." (Why, to call them as such would be "narrow-minded" by your own standard.)

There's also offshoot Mormon polygamous sects in Mexico, Texas, Colorado, & British Columbia. Same thing goes for those. There were also break-offs of the LDS church--the Cutlerites, the Strangites, & dozens of others. The biggest & most mainstream of these was the Missouri-based RLDS, now called "The Church of Christ"...I guess you're all "open-armed" now to these as well? These are part of the "true" Zion? If you label any of these as beyond Zion, you would have to accuse yourself of "narrow-mindedness," eh?

Go ahead, then. Tell us all with a straight face that none of these polygamous sects or the RLDS are outside the walls of Zion. (I dare you...I double-dare you).

212 posted on 01/04/2008 11:03:55 AM PST by Colofornian
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To: Colofornian
Go ahead, then. Tell us all with a straight face that none of these polygamous sects or the RLDS are outside the walls of Zion. (I dare you...I double-dare you).

You really have trouble with your logic. What Mormons require for membership in their church is completely different from what Mormons think is appropriate for full participation in a political party. When working within a political party, Mormons feel that differences in theology are usually not as important as working together based on shared values.
233 posted on 01/04/2008 11:45:16 AM PST by broncobilly
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