[canuck_conservative]

The shoplifter was NOT a customer.

Couldn't you argue it the other way too? He punched out, so technically he wasn't an employee at the time.

To argue that the company can control your conduct 24-7, even off-work, is equivalent to slavery.

[Just another Joe]

To argue that the company can control your conduct 24-7, even off-work, is equivalent to slavery.

Really? There are companys that are now into this.

I must say that I agree with you but there are examples out there now of such conduct by a company.

[nonsporting]

The shoplifter was NOT a customer.

Couldn't you argue it the other way too? He punched out, so technically he wasn't an employee at the time.

To argue that the company can control your conduct 24-7, even off-work, is equivalent to slavery.

Sure. I hadn't considered this perspective.

Whether one is or is not "on the clock", the freedom to enforce the law is critical to a free society. Otherwise we get a police state, where their agents do not exercise caution and often operate in the blind putting many innocent people at risk.

Employers today make it a habit to coerce employees to "agree" to giving up rights as a condition of employment--the right of self-defense for example along with the ability to implement it.

[montag813]

Couldn't you argue it the other way too? He punched out, so technically he wasn't an employee at the time.

You are both correct, and such would form an excellent base for a legal complaint.