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To: taxed2death; bcsco; SJackson
OBL stated on numerous occasions that we (infidels) were occupying SA (holy lands).

So what? Maybe OBL should go back to Saudi Arabia and tell the government why he is opposed to the United States being there.

And it is my understanding (and hopefully someone with a better grasp of Semitic tradition can clarify) that we ARE NOT occupying any holy land in Saudi Arabia. The tradition, that began with the Jews and has been adopted by Christians and Muhammadens is that SITES (the Wailing Wall, the Nativity, the mosque in Mecca, etc.) are holy land, some cities (Jerusalem) have so many holy sites that the entire city is considered holy (also, I believe the Muhammadens have declared the entire city of Mecca off-limits to non-Muhammadens); however, there is NO SUCH THING as a "holy country" if for no other reason than the fact that Saudi Arabia didn't exist as a country a century ago, much less at the time of Muhammad.

99 posted on 12/19/2007 9:03:21 AM PST by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: wagglebee

“Maybe OBL should go back to Saudi Arabia and tell the government why he is opposed to the United States being there.”

Maybe he should have...but the fact remains (if one is to believe he is responsible for the 911 attacks and if one is to believe what he wrote) he took other actions.


101 posted on 12/19/2007 9:09:23 AM PST by taxed2death (A few billion here, a few trillion there...we're all friends right?)
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To: wagglebee

I believe you are correct in your judgment. Mecca is in Saudi Arabia, but Saudi Arabia as a whole is not “holy land” per se. If it were, the Saudi government would have violated their own religion by inviting us there.

This entire issue underscores Paul’s naive and misguided understanding of world affairs and international law. And yet we’re called stupid and ignorant for not bowing to his brilliance.


103 posted on 12/19/2007 9:14:38 AM PST by bcsco ("The American Indians found out what happens when you don't control immigration.")
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To: wagglebee
We never occupied anything. The Royal Family runs the country and invited us in.

Osama, living in Afghanistan to avoid arrest in his former home country (SA revoked his citizenship), didn't like it.

Bush I recognized the authority of the then current goverment of Saudi Arabia, clearly Paul gives Osama a role.

Should a popular spokesman of the Aztlan movement make a similar statement, I presume Paul will give him quasi official status as well. And if they're incensed over our occupation of California, heck, let them have it.

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"I will confess this: If you play the spot backwards it says, 'Paul is dead. Paul is dead. "

104 posted on 12/19/2007 9:14:43 AM PST by SJackson (uh, Congressman, you know, uh, Gov Huckabee is not selling fascism, he's sending a Christmas message)
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