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To: GodGunsGuts
No, I actually believe the universe was INTELLIGENTLY designed not INCOMPETENTLY designed. I think GOD created the universe to be governed by natural law, and set up a system of forces and particles that made the creation of stars and planets and the evolution of life inevitable, without the creator having to micromanage. I.D.; which I call ‘Incompetent Design’ posits that the mechanism of mutation and natural selection that is a inherent feature of the life that HE created is somehow insufficient and HE must intervene to patch up HIS somehow shoddy creation.

So your really saying that either I believe what you believe about a 6,000 year old universe, or an Incompetent Designer or I am not in the community of faith or among the saved? Are you also claiming that this is what most Christians have believed about the Bible for millenia? Sorry but you are as incorrect about this as everything else.

“The truth of our faith becomes a matter of ridicule among the infidels if any Catholic, not gifted with the necessary scientific learning, presents as dogma what scientific scrutiny shows to be false.”
St. Thomas Aquinas

And your source is not just unclear to its audience about the difference between translation and transcription, reading what they wrote it is obvious they know little about either and have confused the two in both the body of the text and the title. So your sources are apparently about as knowledgeable about Science as you, they hate and despise it, think Biologists should be frog marched off to prison, and think Science is a heretical religious belief - your aforementioned ‘Church of Darwin’. What next? Burning at the stake?

57 posted on 12/20/2007 7:19:49 AM PST by allmendream ("A Lyger is pretty much my favorite animal."NapoleonD (Hunter 08))
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To: allmendream

==“The truth of our faith becomes a matter of ridicule among the infidels if any Catholic, not gifted with the necessary scientific learning, presents as dogma what scientific scrutiny shows to be false.”
St. Thomas Aquinas

That’s precisely what Creation Scientists and ID Scientists are doing. They are demonstrating that Darwinism fails to stand up to scientific scrutiny and needs to be discarded.


74 posted on 12/20/2007 12:11:54 PM PST by GodGunsGuts
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To: allmendream
==No, I actually believe the universe was INTELLIGENTLY designed not INCOMPETENTLY designed.

No you don't.

==I think GOD created the universe to be governed by natural law, and set up a system of forces and particles that made the creation of stars and planets and the evolution of life inevitable

Sounds like a deistic statement of faith in evolution.

==I.D.; which I call ‘Incompetent Design’ posits that the mechanism of mutation and natural selection that is a inherent feature of the life that HE created is somehow insufficient

There you go again, placing your faith in Darwin.

==So your really saying that either I believe what you believe about a 6,000 year old universe, or an Incompetent Designer or I am not in the community of faith or among the saved?

Can you read, Allmendream? I said no such thing. And btw, it is you who have downgraded God to the level of incompetent designer.

==“The truth of our faith becomes a matter of ridicule among the infidels if any Catholic, not gifted with the necessary scientific learning, presents as dogma what scientific scrutiny shows to be false.”—St. Thomas Aquinas

Thomas Aquinas was not referring to Creation Scientists. There are thousands of scientists gifted with the necessary scientific learning, and with credentials far superior than your own, who all maintain that random mutation plus natural selection is insufficient to explain the complexity of life...and is therefor falsified.

101 posted on 12/20/2007 7:59:50 PM PST by GodGunsGuts
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