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==Appeal to authority all you want, I don’t care how many of the far less than 1% of Scientists who reject evolution

Ahem. I think it was you who just appealed to authority. LOL

==I have made reference to the data, there is no ‘code upon code’, it is a mechanism to turn on or off different genes

Ok, since you are making reference to the data, what controls the mechanism to turn genes on or off?

==When you get an undergraduate degree, then go on to graduate school and defend your thesis you can join me in a good laugh about how we ‘dropped out’.

I did. I have never entered a program that I didn’t finish, unlike you.

==Getting my Masters was a good financial decision at the time considering the glut of Molecular Biologist Phd’s, and the time needed to finish and then a few years earning ‘post-doc’ wages.

But now you will be forever be outgunned in the creation/evolution debate. Us Creationists will always be able to go over your head. Very bad decision.

==I am not waving my credentials around, you are, and I am proud of my degree.

You should be. And when you finally find it within yourself to stop disparaging Creation Scientists who did just as much as you and more to get their degrees, I will be proud right along with you.

I pointed out how lonely the authority you appealed to is among others who know the subject; pointing this out is hardly my own appeal to authority. You say a Berzerkly PhD Biologist agrees with you, I point out that he is not typical of Phd Biologists. It was you who asserted and still maintain that any named or unnamed PhD’s who are your ‘friends’ can trump my pointing out the actual data by pointing out that THEY (named or unnamed) have PhD’s and I only have a Masters; and their unstated argument points are therefore more convincing than the data I stated. This is appeal to authority, but it isn’t even your own, they differ from the ‘authoritative’ position, and besides a reference to histones and a claim of falsification of Evolution through Natural Selection, your citation of authority is bereft of any actual data. The other authorities you reference cannot keep Translation and Transcription straight in their headlines so I do not ‘respect your authoritaaaaaay’.

What controls the mechanism to turn genes on or off? Well there are numerous levels of control as I have said all along. First a transcription factor has to be turned on in some circumstances (other genes transcription factors are always on)sometimes they turn on or off in response to an external signal. This transcription factor has an amino acid sequence that will bind to a specific DNA sequence in the ‘promoter’ region of the gene. Once bound to the promoter of the gene the transcription factor will recruit RNA polymerase. RNA polymerase is the STAR of this Thread! Unfortunately he got billed under TRANSLATION when he does TRANSCRIPTION. RNA polymerase has phosphorylation sites that control which transcription factors it might interact with preferentially and THIS is a COOL discovery! (but it isn’t a new code and it isn’t translation). RNA polymerase makes an mRNA transcript of the gene that then gets spliced into a message and taken to where it needs to get TRANSLATED by use of the 5’ leading edge of the mRNA. The mRNA gets translated into a protein at the ribosome, it has a sequence that initiates this ribosomal binding and some are stronger than others. Once the protein gets made sometimes it binds to the transcription factor that turned the gene on and then turns it off by inactivating its own transcription factor (negative regulation). Sometimes a protein is made and held inactive by another protein and it doesn’t actually do its job until something signals its parter to let go and then it becomes active. Sometimes the body makes a protein and then immediately destroys it because it isn’t needed (but when it is needed, it is too late to signal the DNA to make RNA to make protein, you need the protein NOW!). Those are all levels of control that someone could claim was a ‘code within a code’ or a ‘code upon a code’ but really there is just one code and many many multiple levels of control.

So what was your thesis on?