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To: Quix

Oh, I know Quix... I’m just understandably put off by people who rush to blame medication for acts of evil is all... As I’m sure you know, some of us are helped tremendously by these medications and my suffering would’ve stopped sooner had I not been so incredibly afraid to try the medication I needed. I fear people not getting the help they need for fear of ending up being “one of those” who goes off and commits mass murder — and hence, because of their fears, end up being one of those people because they DIDN’T get the help they needed... (I hope that makes sense how I explained it).


2,144 posted on 12/11/2007 9:41:20 AM PST by LibertyRocks
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To: LibertyRocks

Yes.

Quite reasonable. You raise very good points.

Thanks.


2,147 posted on 12/11/2007 9:47:49 AM PST by Quix (GOD ALONE IS GOD; WORTHY; PAID THE PRICE; IS COMING AGAIN; KNOWS ALL; IS LOVING; IS ALTOGETHER GOOD)
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To: LibertyRocks

I think my one caution maybe even to someone like you . . .

well . . . some background first . . .

My PhD training included MUCH MORE instruction from the fellow who taught the MD psychiatrists at UCSD their psychoactive drug tract . . . on such psychoactive drugs than he gave them in terms of the number of hours of such instruction.

And, I used to be a pretty . . . standard psychologist type on such matters. When certain symptom criteria reached certain levels and other means had been tried, meds were the only and most fitting alternative.

AND THAT CAN STILL BE THE CASE.

I have since learned, however, that things are often a bit more complicated.

1. The drugs are not that problem free and need to be monitored a lot. Some range of drugs often needs to be tried until the specific drug and specific dosage are finely tuned to the person.

2. MANY TIMES, drugs may not be necessary over the long term

IF
IF
IF

the person can be successfully trained to manage their feelings, relationships, choices WITH GUARDING THEIR THOUGHTS; THEIR SELF-TALK; THEIR DAILY CHOICES; THEIR FEELINGS MUCH MORE SUCCESSFULLY WITHOUT MEDS.

And USUALLY, that can be done in even some incredibly difficult cases

IF
IF
IF
IF

the patient/cleint will PERSIST in doggedly working at the behavioral shaping—especially in guarding their thoughts and words and emotions, attitudes like a precious treasure.

To keep it short—I’ll stop there. LOL. I still need to do grades for one more class.


2,153 posted on 12/11/2007 10:00:22 AM PST by Quix (GOD ALONE IS GOD; WORTHY; PAID THE PRICE; IS COMING AGAIN; KNOWS ALL; IS LOVING; IS ALTOGETHER GOOD)
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