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To: nicmarlo; All
"I am surprised that no one did enough to help him.....it would seem he must have been sending out some red flags...."

I'm amazed at some of the posts on this thread. My opinion of Pentecostal practices aside, there IS no help for some people. The boy's writings look like classic paranoid schizophrenia. He heard voices. He thought everyone was out to injure him in some way. His self absorption seemed to be complete. He mentioned drug and alcohol abuse in one post. He seems to have exhibited ALL the classic symptoms and behaviors of A (the most serious) personality disorders and several B traits. He claims in his posts he tried various treatments, but doesn't go into normal detail, such as giving his opinion of a specific drug or treatment, leading me to believe he's lying and/or didn't continue any treatment long enough for it to help him. As for the Prozac, which he claims he DID take for 8 months, he needed Thorazine, not Prozac.

I question I want answered is why wasn't he committed?

2,115 posted on 12/11/2007 8:48:23 AM PST by cake_crumb (May I never live to see the day America has a 'popular war'. God bless our troops.)
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To: cake_crumb

Folks would have had to document to a mental health professional that he was an IMMINENT DANGER to himself or others.

The bloggings MIGHT have qualified depending. But were they ever made available to anyone with sufficient training and position to carry it further. I’m skeptical.

Perhaps the website is complicit in not forcefully bringing such to a professional’s awareness—maybe they did or tried to. But I’m loathe to hold websites legally responsible. Still, morally, they might should have, could ahve done more.

I agree that some folks are SUPER RESISTENT TO HELP. Have met more than a few. Even super therapist with impossible cases once . . . a mother walked in with a 7-10 or so year old boy. BEfore they got far into the room, Milton Erickson told the mother to take the boy out of there and not to bring him back. My fantasy about that is that whether or not Milton would have described it that way—he sensed some spiritual forces that he didn’t want to tangle with.

Sure folks can justify all manner of diagnoses from the DSM IV.

I’m not impressed nor convinced that such diagnoses would comprehensively describe all the important things going on with this kid.

imho, it is clear that he had at least a significant demonic problem of above average proportions. Medication and therapy will NOT solve that problem by a long shot. Some such can even make such a problem worse.

He MAY have had a diagnosible mental illness even IF all his demonic and socializaiton problems had been worked through. But I am somewhat skeptical even of that.


2,120 posted on 12/11/2007 9:02:45 AM PST by Quix (GOD ALONE IS GOD; WORTHY; PAID THE PRICE; IS COMING AGAIN; KNOWS ALL; IS LOVING; IS ALTOGETHER GOOD)
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To: cake_crumb
why wasn't he committed

And that speaks directly to my original question. He must have been sending out enough red flags that he SHOULD HAVE BEEN committed, i.e., RECEIVED HELP.

I'm more amazed you don't understand MY point.

2,202 posted on 12/11/2007 1:11:57 PM PST by nicmarlo
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