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nghtmrchld26

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(3/14/07 8:52 pm)
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pentecostal insanity regarding media/entertainment


Growing up, TV, Internet/computers, video games, music, Christian contemporary music, movies and books were all extremely restricted. All those things carried this……mystique about them. They were like these mythical things imbued with incredible power straight from Satan, all run by Satanist covens operating out of Hollywood, Washington D.C.(when Bill Clinton was in office), and abortion clinics. Except there was one problem…………the senior pastor and his close church friends and their families all watched TV/Cable TV, had the internet, listened to at least some non-Christian music and all listened to CCM, video games(including those satanic “T” and “M” rated ones), and all, especially the senior pastor, had “R” Movie collections. Me and some of the other non-elite church youth and members asked about these contradictions but never received any answers.

I still remember how we were told that “The Simpsons” was a very evil and Satanic TV show with the intent of causing people to leave Christianity (as if that’s a bad thing). As a teenager my mother had the TV tuner removed by a TV technician so that it could only receive from the AV inputs, meaning, could only watch VHS and DVDs. I remember me and the other church youth would go over to the Senior pastor’s house and ask to watch the very same movie that his 10 year old son or daughter had told us they’d watch and be told “sorry guys, that’s rated ‘R,’ it’s not Godly.” Of course we’d ask “but then why do you have it?” Sometimes he’d lie, other times he’d just say “sorry…you can’t.”

I remember wanting to listen to Christian music and be told by my parents and other church members that we couldn’t, EVEN THOUGH the senior pastor’s and other church leader’s families did.

Internet was treated as one of Satan’s special weapons in the “end-times” to promote sex(which everyone knows is of the Devil…..) Everyone was terrified that one of us teenagers *might* get a glimpse of a naked body and become demon possessed. This always confused me for how can viewing what God designed be satanic at the same time? And if we “lust” are the demons able to read our thoughts and somehow *know* to seize upon us? Isn’t it possible to see nudity without *lusting* somehow? Of course, the senior pastor’s two oldest children, one male the other female, got someone pregnant and got pregnant; the other two younger ones were proven to be sexually active. Other church leader’s children were sexually active.

Music was VERY restricted of course. We got all kinds of lectures on how Satanist covens had some kind of backmasking technology and were partnered with all the artists, including Iron Maiden, Motley Crue, Britney Spears, Madonna and N’sync. Amy Grant and Michael W. Smith were said be in on it too…even though the “elite” members of the church listened to them. Growing up, I was restricted to listening to….sermons on the radio or through tapes.

Books were VERY restricted. We were only allowed to read Christian books and forced to memorize the bible. When Harry Potter came out we were all given lectures about how “we’re living in the end times and Satan is trying to capture the children and make them all witches!!!!” I knew of a few people who got harassed for letting their kids read Harry Potter.

I remember with all these different forms of media it was like I was always in Mission Impossible. We were either at church or being brainwashed in Christian home school. When we did have free time…we were either forced to pray, read the bible, do chores, or…..well nothing since we were not allowed to do anything. We were all being trained to “become the future of Christianity.” “The chosen generation that is going to turn America back to God in these last days.”
“The chosen generation who are going to become great prophets and pastors and evangelists and missionaries in the world.”
“The chosen generation who are going to take over the world and do away with everyone else’s false satanic religion and take dominion until Jesus returns!!!!!!”

Well, I got all fed up with the insanity, hypocrisy, conflicting doctrines, the and lack of absolute answers in regards to “salvation,” heaven and hell and other theological issues, the child abuse, brainwashing, lies, gossip, scandals, threats and fear mongering. I got tired of always hearing “oooohh, you’re saved by grace, not by works!” “Everybody loves you! Jesus loves you!” only to hear about how I was going to hell for watching “The simpsons” or could lose my salvation and could never be certain if 30 years from now I might lose it due to some odd sin and die in an accident and end up in this eternal hell preached to us day and night.

Me, I found a new Law to live by and I realized……I don’t have to be abused nor submit to these liars and their lies nor do I have to be afraid of this make-believe hell and false theory of salvation which no fundamentalist Christian could ever give solid answers on.

Me and many others are waking up.
We will rise up above and against these abuses against humanity.
Men will no longer be ruled by fear and superstition, oppressed by bigotry and tyranny.

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Every man and every woman is a star

Edited by: nghtmrchld26 at: 3/15/07 8:43 am
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2,035 posted on 12/10/2007 11:22:03 PM PST by Freedom2specul8 (Please pray for our troops.... http://anyservicemember.navy.mil/)
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nghtmrchld26

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(8/23/07 9:39 pm)
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Re: Werewolves and Witches


Good old Rebecca Brown (aka Ruth Bailey and Elaine Moses).
Some people in my church were into her books, Jack Chick tracts and “The Prophecy Club” and all those “satanist anti-christ end times armageddon jesus-is-coming-soon” conspiracy theories. Oh man, I remember always being told and hearing from the conspiracy crowd at my charismatic church about how “Satanist Bill Clinton, the democrats, masons, illuminati, episcopaliens, mormons, unitarians, methodists, new agers, humanists, postmodernists, evolutionists, abortionists, atheists and dawinists(who really secretly worship satan), the Pope and roman catholics, wiccans, buddhists(who are all “new age”), skull and bones, Hollywood....

were ALL working together to:
promote Marilyn Manson
Weather Control
RFID chips/mark of the beast chips
“One world government”(even though the pente-matics talk about having “one world government” under Christ)
Backmask lyrics into rock music
Promote evil secular universities and liberalism and socialism

Rebecca Brown claimed that:
Satanists are running most major police departments and hospitals in America
Child sacrifice is rampant throughout all american cities

Alot of these people claimed to have special “insider info” on “the illuminati” and “the high satanic brotherhood.”

All this insider info is wonderful except.........where’s the factual evidence of WHERE all these “satanist child sacrifices” took place? At WHICH mormon temple/mason group did these things happen and WHERE are the victims and witnesses now? Who, what, when, and where did all these “satanism activities” actually take place? WHO was/is the head of these satanist hospitals and police departments? Where are these places? Just WHERE did you have these secret “illuminati” meetings?
WHAT are the phone numbers and addresses of all these “illuminati” and “satanist” people?

You’ll notice that in Rebecca Brown’s book and many others NONE of those details are given. When these people are asked these questions they ALWAYS say something along the lines of:
“You must be one of the satanists.....” “you’re just trying to stand in the way of what God is trying to do” “you have an evil spirit” “I can’t give details or the illuminati will come and kill me......” “the bible says not to through pearls before swine”

Notice that all of these responses sidestep the issue and are only attempts to not have to provide evidence for all their fantastical claims.

I remember in youth group we’d watch videos about getting “Left Behind” and how Bill Clinton and Skull and Bones were going to usher in the Antichrist and make all of us to take “the mark.” lol I’d even have nightmares about it and sometimes lay wide awake worrying about whether or not all these “satanist mark of the beast” people were watching our church waiting to kidnap or somehow tempt us and put spells on us. Of course, then Y2K and Bill Clinton came and went and I started to question what was really going on........
I started to find out that all these conspiracy freaks were all about........MONEY. Who’d have thought? I started realizing that all these conspiracy books and videos being touted as “God’s message and warning to America and christians to repent” were being SOLD FOR MONEY AND NOT FREELY GIVEN AWAY.

I also started to ask this question:
Why is everyone SOOOO concerned about some supposed satanist coven that’s “casting spells” in the neighborhood when christians in my own church and in other groups don’t even show love to each other and treat each other like @#%$? Why is everyone sooooo worried about what Bill Clinton is doing when the pastor and the other christian leaders live completely double lives, telling everyone they’re going to hell for things that they’re doing?

I also came to the realization that many of the christians and christian ministries who CONDEMNED these conspiracy freaks and who condemned pentecostalism(such as hank hanegraph) were the same fake hypocrites everywhere else. They were SELLING their anti-pentecostal books and ministries for money too........

When dealing with these conspiracy groups ALWAYS demand factual evidence. Rebecca Brown “M.D.”(her license was revoked due to her fanatical pentecostal behaviour) claims that “Elaine” went to some special “satanist camp” at age 15(or around that age) and that the “satanist there said she was specially chosen for Satan’s work.” Well that’s wonderful but......where was this camp held?! Who put this camp on? Rebecca also claims that the satanist covens have their own PRIVATE AIRFIELD and private jets and are involved in drug and weapons running. Well that’s great but......WHERE? WHO? WHEN? HOW?

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2,037 posted on 12/10/2007 11:24:08 PM PST by Freedom2specul8 (Please pray for our troops.... http://anyservicemember.navy.mil/)
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Shooters view media influences.... post number 2035


2,038 posted on 12/10/2007 11:26:41 PM PST by Freedom2specul8 (Please pray for our troops.... http://anyservicemember.navy.mil/)
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To: ~Kim4VRWC's~

Sigh.

It sure is hard to find a balanced healthy church . . .

and even the best churches have . . .

goodness . . . flawed humans running around loose in it.

Sadly . . . do so many in leadership have to be SOOOOOOOO FLAWED?

Has long been a troubling concern of mine as well.

Perhaps the issue is FOCUS ON GOD not on flawed humans.

A teen pastor used to say . . . IF A HYPOCRIT IS BETWEEN YOU AND GOD, HE’S CLOSER TO GOD THAN YOU ARE.

Too true.

Nevertheless . . . very troubling and troublesome.


2,091 posted on 12/11/2007 7:24:03 AM PST by Quix (GOD ALONE IS GOD; WORTHY; PAID THE PRICE; IS COMING AGAIN; KNOWS ALL; IS LOVING; IS ALTOGETHER GOOD)
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