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1 posted on 11/24/2007 11:28:49 AM PST by blam
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So Let’s return the Americas to their rightful owners.


34 posted on 11/24/2007 2:53:22 PM PST by Navy Patriot (The hyphen American with the loudest whine gets the grease.)
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Does Skull Prove That The First Americans Came From Europe?

No.

It might show that people who came to America before a certain time might have come from the population that also populated Europe. It may well not show anything about who were the first people in America. We may have to dig a lot deeper for that.

37 posted on 11/24/2007 3:17:47 PM PST by arthurus (Better to fight them OVER THERE than to have to fight them OVER HERE!)
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Shaved heads started at CBGB’s and Max’s Kansas in New York.


39 posted on 11/24/2007 3:23:58 PM PST by BobS (I><P>)
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If true (and I hope it is)....

...La Raza, MeCHa, and all the reconquista and "native" American groups will be deeply saddened. ...and will do their utmost to downplay the evidence.

53 posted on 11/24/2007 5:28:13 PM PST by Mr. Mojo (“Be wary of strong drink. It can make you shoot at tax collectors and miss.")
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I read that Mayans, Incas, and Mapuches had the same rate of Rh negative blood as Celtic and Basques, which leads to the possibility they are from Europe.
Lacandon Maya

This website had a picture gallery of them and some have blonde and red hair. I've seen photos of Mapuches of South America and they look more Caucasian to me. Anazasi relics look very Celtic to me.
Ancient America
63 posted on 11/24/2007 6:28:05 PM PST by Ptarmigan (Bunnies=Sodomites)
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She was 26 years old? Really? Not 25, not 27? What, did they find her driver’s license with her 13,000 year old skull?


69 posted on 11/24/2007 8:07:49 PM PST by News Junkie (Faith and Reason)
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Opps! Sherman... looks like we need to fire up the Wayback Machine again!

Goash, Mr. Peabody, did we forget... something?

Yes... Marty McFly!

71 posted on 11/24/2007 8:12:15 PM PST by Bender2 ("I've got a twisted sense of humor, and everything amuses me." RAH Beyond this Horizon)
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“Does Skull Prove That The First Americans Came From Europe?”


Yes, I thought everybody knew that already.

W


75 posted on 11/24/2007 9:59:21 PM PST by WLR (Defeating Liberalism and The East since 500 BC Iran delinda est.)
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Kennewick Man and Luzia (A comparison)

79 posted on 11/25/2007 7:04:42 AM PST by blam (Secure the border and enforce the law)
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Scientists in Britain have identified the oldest skeleton ever found on the American continent in a discovery that raises fresh questions about the accepted theory of how the first people arrived in the New World. The skeleton's perfectly preserved skull belonged to a 26-year-old woman who died during the last ice age on the edge of a giant prehistoric lake which once formed around an area now occupied by the sprawling suburbs of Mexico City.

Scientists from Liverpool's John Moores University and Oxford's Research Laboratory of Archaeology have dated the skull to about 13,000 years old, making it 2,000 years older than the previous record for the continent's oldest human remains. However, the most intriguing aspect of the skull is that it is long and narrow and typically Caucasian in appearance, like the heads of white, western Europeans today. Modern-day native Americans, however, have short, wide skulls that are typical of their Mongoloid ancestors who are known to have crossed into America from Asia on an ice-age land bridge that had formed across the Bering Strait.

The extreme age of Peñon woman suggests two scenarios. Either there was a much earlier migration of Caucasian-like people with long, narrow skulls across the Bering Strait and that these people were later replaced by a subsequent migration of Mongoloid people. Alternatively, and more controversially, a group of Stone Age people from Europe made the perilous sea journey across the Atlantic Ocean many thousands of years before Columbus or the Vikings.

Silvia Gonzalez, a Mexican-born archaeologist working at John Moores University and the leader of the research team, accepted yesterday that her discovery lends weight to the highly contentious idea that the first Americans may have actually been Europeans. "At the moment it points to that as being likely. They were definitely not Mongoloid in appearance. They were from somewhere else. As to whether they were European, at this point in time we cannot say 'no'," Dr. Gonzalez said.

Old article, old data.

The Santa Rosa Island skeleton is now dated at 13,400 years. No DNA last I heard.

Long, narrow skulls are not only Caucasian.

The migration of Caucasian-like folks may be Haplogroup X. But they came via Siberia, and are not Europeans or anything close.

Silvia Gonzalez has not produced any DNA last I heard, although I understand she may be submitting some samples shortly (I don't know exactly which samples will be submitted).

There is a lot of speculation about Europeans in the New World before anyone else. Some of this comes from the early estimate Chatters gave to the Kennewick skeleton. That has not been supported by subsequent studies, including Chatters' own studies. Long and narrow, yes; Caucasian, no evidence yet.

Most of this Caucasian in the New World stuff appears to be junk science. I would like to see more evidence and less speculation.

89 posted on 11/25/2007 9:05:17 PM PST by Coyoteman (Religious belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge.)
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