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Death of Jefferson Davis Remembered - The Christmas of 1889 Was a Sad Time in the South
Accessnga.com ^ | 11/19/07 | Calvin Johnson, Jr.

Posted on 11/19/2007 10:09:26 AM PST by BnBlFlag

Death of Jefferson Davis Remembered - The Christmas of 1889 was a sad time in the South. By Calvin Johnson Jr. Staff Email Contact Editor Print

Jefferson Davis - AuthenticHistory.com December 6th, is the 118th anniversary of the death of a great American Hero---Jefferson Davis.

The "Politically Correct" would have you forget the past...But do not forget the history of the men and women who made the USA great.

Caution, this is a family friendly story to be shared.

The Sons of Confederate Veterans have declared 2008, the "Year of Jefferson Davis." Remembrance events will include the re-opening of "Beauvoir" on Jefferson Davis' 200th birthday---June 3, 2008. This was Davis' last home that was damaged by Hurricane Katrina. The Jefferson Davis Presidential Library and Museum will be rebuilt and re-open about two years after the house. Beauvoir is located on the beautiful Mississippi Gulf Coast. See more at: www.beauvoir.org

The New York Times reported the death of Jefferson Davis;

New Orleans, December 8, 1889---Quote "A careful tally of the visitors shows that about 40,000 persons, mostly women and children, viewed the remains today. This crowd included, in solemn and respectful attendance, all conditions of Whites, Blacks, ex-Confederates, ex-Federals, and even Indians and Chinamen." ---Unquote

Davis' Death was also the page 1 story in Dixie;

Excerpt: http://www.accessnorthga.com/detail.php?n=204067&c=11

(Excerpt) Read more at accessnorthga.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: confederacy; dixie; jeffersondavis; southernheritage
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To: Rb ver. 2.0

It doesn’t have to. Any American citizen who engages in active warfare against his country is a traitor by definition. And I don’t buy the noble states rights cause either. Remove slavery from the equation and the war never happens. Anyone who thinks otherwise is either lying or delusional. So i’m supposed to be sad that a pro-slavery traitor died and think he was a good man. Not a chance.


21 posted on 11/19/2007 10:34:58 AM PST by SmoothTalker
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To: Rb ver. 2.0
Where does it say in the Constitution as it existed in 1861 that individual states don’t have a right to succeed from the Union?

The states that ratified the Constitution, in so ratifying it, acknowledged Article VI, paragraph 2:

This Constitution, and the Laws of the United States which shall be made in Pursuance thereof; and all Treaties made, or which shall be made, under the Authority of the United States, shall be the supreme Law of the Land; and the Judges in every State shall be bound thereby, any Thing in the Constitution or Laws of any State to the Contrary notwithstanding.

If the individual states are bound by the Constitution as the supreme law of the land, they cannot unilaterally abolish it within their borders and replace on their own authority.

They have ceded that supreme legal authority to the United States through ratification.

22 posted on 11/19/2007 10:38:54 AM PST by wideawake (Why is it that so many self-proclaimed "Constitutionalists" know so little about the Constitution?)
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To: Badeye
How the Union treated him while he was there for two years is one of the uglier post Civil War incidents you’ll never read about in any highschool history book.

Too bad the Confederate Prison in Salisbury was out of operation.

23 posted on 11/19/2007 10:39:49 AM PST by AppyPappy (If you aren't part of the solution, there is good money to be made prolonging the problem.)
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To: Rb ver. 2.0

He also stayed in a house near Greensboro College. The house is still standing.


24 posted on 11/19/2007 10:40:41 AM PST by AppyPappy (If you aren't part of the solution, there is good money to be made prolonging the problem.)
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To: SmoothTalker
a pro-slavery traitor

You just described George Washington in the minds of many people. The same PC sickness that is destroying the memories of Confederate heroes will soon be unleashed on the Founding Fathers. In fact, it's already happening.

25 posted on 11/19/2007 10:42:06 AM PST by puroresu (Enjoy ASIAN CINEMA? See my Freeper page for recommendations (updated!).)
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To: Badeye
He, and many many others believed the South had a right to ‘succeed’ from the Union, based on their interpretation of the Constitution.

An interpretation which he learned at West Point while studying the Constitution from Joseph Story's gold-standard textbook (at the time).

26 posted on 11/19/2007 10:42:29 AM PST by Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus (Conservatives - Freedom WITH responsibility; Libertarians - Freedom FROM responsibility)
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To: Rb ver. 2.0
...succeed...

I'm not the grammar and spelling police, but to quiet those who are, the word is secede

27 posted on 11/19/2007 10:43:13 AM PST by Doohickey (Giuliani: Brokeback Republican)
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To: SmoothTalker
It doesn’t have to. Any American citizen who engages in active warfare against his country is a traitor by definition. And I don’t buy the noble states rights cause either. Remove slavery from the equation and the war never happens. Anyone who thinks otherwise is either lying or delusional. So i’m supposed to be sad that a pro-slavery traitor died and think he was a good man. Not a chance.

Ah yes, there's always one idiot on every COnfederacy/States' Rights thread....

28 posted on 11/19/2007 10:43:59 AM PST by Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus (Conservatives - Freedom WITH responsibility; Libertarians - Freedom FROM responsibility)
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To: Badeye
...gave in to political appointments for combat units with disasterous results.

As did Lincoln, to be fair.

29 posted on 11/19/2007 10:44:04 AM PST by keat (You know who I feel bad for? Arab-Americans who truly want to get into crop-dusting.)
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To: puroresu

He was a traitor to the crown. He was a patriot to America. As an American I view him as a hero. Were I a Brit in 1780 I wouldn’t. Davis was a scoundrel who should not be celebrated by anyone. An incompetent scoundrel to boot who was in a war about states rights to continue a deeply immoral system.


30 posted on 11/19/2007 10:45:01 AM PST by SmoothTalker
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To: SmoothTalker
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"We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness." " In every stage of these Oppressions We have Petitioned for Redress in the most humble terms: Our repeated Petitions have been answered only by repeated injury. A Prince, whose character is thus marked by every act which may define a Tyrant, is unfit to be the ruler of a free people."

31 posted on 11/19/2007 10:45:20 AM PST by Afronaut (Press 2 for English - Thanks Mr. President !)
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To: wideawake

Rightly or wrongly, both sides assigned nearly all blame to Davis and elevated General Lee to a hero-status shared only by Washington in American history.


32 posted on 11/19/2007 10:45:23 AM PST by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: wideawake

Kind of ironic, isn’t it, that one of the fruits of the Union victory was ratification of the 14th Amendment, which has basically been used to overthrow our system of government on a variety of issues ranging from abortion to Nativity scenes to homosexuality.


33 posted on 11/19/2007 10:45:28 AM PST by puroresu (Enjoy ASIAN CINEMA? See my Freeper page for recommendations (updated!).)
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To: keat
As did Lincoln, to be fair.

If anyone was a traitor to the Constitution, it was Lincoln.

34 posted on 11/19/2007 10:45:29 AM PST by Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus (Conservatives - Freedom WITH responsibility; Libertarians - Freedom FROM responsibility)
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To: Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus

“Ah yes, there’s always one idiot on every COnfederacy/States’ Rights thread....”

Still enamored with the Lost Cause are we? I’m not that sentimental. The war is over. It has been for a long time. The South lost and the South was wrong morally. I’m happy the union won.


35 posted on 11/19/2007 10:46:17 AM PST by SmoothTalker
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To: SmoothTalker

You’re not American,,are you in Finland..??,you can tell us..


36 posted on 11/19/2007 10:47:14 AM PST by silentreignofheroes (When the Last Two Prophets are taken, there will be no Tomorrow!)
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To: SmoothTalker
Still enamored with the Lost Cause are we? I’m not that sentimental. The war is over. It has been for a long time. The South lost and the South was wrong morally. I’m happy the union won.

Good for you. Unfortunately, your happiness is based on knowledge appropriate to a fifth-grader in a public school.

37 posted on 11/19/2007 10:47:35 AM PST by Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus (Conservatives - Freedom WITH responsibility; Libertarians - Freedom FROM responsibility)
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To: Doohickey

It actually has nothing to do with spelling or grammar, “succeed” and “secede” are completely different words with completely different meanings.


38 posted on 11/19/2007 10:47:36 AM PST by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus
If anyone was a traitor to the Constitution, it was Lincoln.

LOL! In what possible way?

39 posted on 11/19/2007 10:47:49 AM PST by wideawake (Why is it that so many self-proclaimed "Constitutionalists" know so little about the Constitution?)
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To: AppyPappy

‘How the Union treated him while he was there for two years is one of the uglier post Civil War incidents you’ll never read about in any highschool history book.

‘Too bad the Confederate Prison in Salisbury was out of operation.’

Thats basically the attitude that led to his treatment while detained at Ft Monroe, all right....(chuckle)


40 posted on 11/19/2007 10:50:13 AM PST by Badeye (That Karma thing keeps coming around, eh Sally? (chuckle))
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