"..The libertarians are rejected because they are metaphysically mad.
Lunacy repels and political lunacy especially. I do not mean they are dangerous; nay, they are repellant merely.
ejonesie22 'repellently' agrees:
Interesting post, mainly because I had a running dialog with a libertarian yesterday who was offended by the idea that I would burn the Constitution in a heartbeat if it stood between my family and their safety.
I was 'repelled' because nothing in our Constitution stands between you, your family and their safety.
It's a silly claim.
It grew from another argument with Paul supporters and their idea that we should withdraw from the world's stage and let the border patrol defend us or some such rot. What we are doing is "Unconstitutional"
Well, -- that's your misguided version of the thread. -- Which you scuttled away from when I called you out on your claims about the Constitution being a "living document".
They hit me back with some line about reverence for the document. They were Agnostic it appears.
My religious beliefs were, and are not, the issue.
I pointed out the Bill of Rights and the fact we are endowed, by the Creator, with certain inalienable rights, and the Constitution is there to defend same.
He fired back that it works just as well without the "by our Creator" statement, that we are just simply endowed with inalienable rights.
Is it your point that we are not so endowed ?? --
Of course I pointed out that it was written as I presented.
And then you scuttled away, without responding to my next post. -- And here you are, -- telling everybody about your triumph on a completely different thread, -- without even pinging me... Feel proud.
The whole of the American experience, all the documents and laws cannot be separated from the divine, yet there are many who have replaced God with a document, worshiping the law.
Most are libertarians as far as I can tell.
Yep, us repellent libertarians believe in our Constitutions 'rule of law'.
I have no problem respecting the Constitution, indeed it is the law of a blessed land, but it is God, then Family, then Country. God expects me to protect what he has given me, namely my wife and soon to be child. I do that now by supporting our efforts in a modern nuclear age world.
You've mentioned that before, -- how do 'nukes' supposedly modify our rule of law, our Constitution?
Separating the divine from the constructs of our Republic and it's laws is like Frosted Flakes without the sugar coating. It leave you with nothing but Flakes... In this case, the kind that spout the arguments Kirk mentions in your excerpt...
Gotta love you calling us flakes..
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1889336/posts?page=258#258
And the last post to another of your Peers on this thread was also mine:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1890308/posts?page=193#193
And let us make it a triple from the first thread!
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1889336/posts?page=292#292
And of course this response.
Scuttle way indeed. The truth is as alien to you as light is to the blind...
You want to remove the Creator part, as I quote from your post bellow:.
"-- We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness --"
Great concept, -- one that still makes perfect sense if modified as below:
'-- We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are born equal, that they are endowed with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness --'
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1889336/posts?page=257#257
Your self assumed edit changes the original intent of a founding document.
Seems you have issues with others doing the same, but I guess it is OK, you are among the chosen ones...
For the rest of use, the majority of Americans, as well as our founders, the Creator is no "Concept"