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Water into fuel?
http://www.wkyc.com ^ | 6/1/2007 | Michael O'Mara

Posted on 08/01/2007 8:46:09 AM PDT by Para-Ord.45

Retired TV station owner and broadcast engineer, John Kanzius, wasn't looking for an answer to the energy crisis. He was looking for a cure for cancer.

Four years ago, inspiration struck in the middle of the night. Kanzius decided to try using radio waves to kill the cancer cells.

His wife Marianne heard the noise and found her husband inventing a radio frequency generator with her pie pans.

"I got up immediately, and thought he had lost it."

Here are the basics of John's idea:

Radio-waves will heat certain metals. Tiny bits of certain metal are injected into a cancer patient.

Those nano-particals are attracted to the abnormalities of the cancer cells and ignore the healthy cells.

The patient is then exposed to radio waves and only the bad cells heat up and die.

But John also came across yet another extrordinary breakthrough.

His machine could actually make saltwater burn.

John Kanzius discovered that his radio frequency generator could release the oxygen and hydrogen from saltwater and create an incredibly intense flame.

"Just like that. If that was in a car cylinder you could see the amount of fire that would be in the cylinder."

The APV Company Laboratory in Akron has checked out John's amazing invention. They were amazed.

"That could be a steam engine, a steam turbine. That could be a car engine if you wanted it to be."

Imagine the possibilities. Saltwater as the ultimate clean fuel.

A happy byproduct of one man searching for the cure for cancer.

http://www.wkyc.com/video/player.aspx?aid=35660&bw=


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KEYWORDS: coldfusion; energy; johnkanzius; kanzius; rumor; saltwater
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To: Leatherneck_MT

“It’s an intriguing Idea, I wonder how it would work.”

- Well, I seem to remember reading about an inventor back in the thirties who made a killing fleecing investors because he claimed that he could put a small additive into water and it would fuel a car. He even had a workable demonstration model. Unfortunately, the small additive in the water turned out to be liquid acetylene (used in welding torches). In water, it too, will perform like gasoline. However, it has the distressing habit of melting all the cylinders so after a short time, the engine also became welded together and seized up.


41 posted on 08/01/2007 10:22:56 AM PDT by finnigan2 (>)
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To: Lost Dutchman

I have a HALF Lhasa-Apso HALF Shih-tzu I call a Lotsa Shitzoo.....


42 posted on 08/01/2007 10:27:21 AM PDT by Red Badger (No wonder Mexico is so filthy. Everybody who does cleaning jobs is HERE!.......)
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To: Fudd
What I do know, though, leads me to suspect the claim, while possible, is not highly probable.

I suspect it is possible that winged monkeys may fly out your ass, but not highly probable.

43 posted on 08/01/2007 10:31:31 AM PDT by TexasRepublic (Afghan protest - "Death to Dog Washers!")
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To: Para-Ord.45

Saw a steam turbine about 1975 that ran on water, made steam from the water with its own energy output, and condensed the steam to water so it could be used again. They had to put all kinds of loads on the generator to keep it from running out of control and exploding from centrifugal forces.

No kidding. They had a picture of it in a magazine lighting up a wall of lightbulbs.


44 posted on 08/01/2007 10:36:17 AM PDT by RightWhale (It's Brecht's donkey, not mine)
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To: Clam Digger

ping


45 posted on 08/01/2007 10:51:17 AM PDT by nuke rocketeer
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To: TexasRepublic
I suspect it is possible that winged monkeys may fly out your ass, but not highly probable.

It all depends on where I choose to eat out, I suppose... :)

46 posted on 08/01/2007 10:51:55 AM PDT by Fudd
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To: All

Seems to me with all of the brains we have here in this thread, we could solve the energy crisis overnight.

Are there any takers or are we just all nay sayers?


47 posted on 08/01/2007 10:58:16 AM PDT by Leatherneck_MT (Famously frisky)
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To: RightWhale; Clam Digger; The_Victor

ABSOLUTELY NOT POSSIBLE.

There had to be a hidden heat source to make the steam. A steam turbine/generator has ~35%-42% effcciency converting steam energy to electricity, depending upon the initial steam pressure/temperature. That alone guarantees that this little concept is impossible, because after just a few cycles, the initial energy would be totally expended in losses.

Energy at start = 1.0
Energy available to make condensed water back to steam at end of first cycle = 0.42
Energy available at end of second cycle = 0.42*0.42 =0.1764
Energy available at end of thrid cycle = 0.42*0.1764 = 0.075
Energy available at end of fourth cycle = 0.42* 0.075 = 0.031
and so one. After 4 cycles there is only 3% of the initial energy left to boil the water, therefore there had to be an external heat source to boile the water again. Just like a real world power plant. That guy was a scammer pulling one of the older industrial age scams, the perpetual motion machine.


48 posted on 08/01/2007 11:02:03 AM PDT by nuke rocketeer
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To: chuckles

It can work in a carbureted system as well, but it’s really quirky for the average driver. More hasslle than it’s worth.


49 posted on 08/01/2007 11:02:12 AM PDT by Clam Digger
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To: RightWhale

Simply amazing, the’ve broken the laws of thermodynamics!


50 posted on 08/01/2007 11:04:24 AM PDT by Clam Digger
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To: Leatherneck_MT
Seems to me with all of the brains we have here in this thread, we could solve the energy crisis overnight. Are there any takers or are we just all nay sayers?

Defeating the laws of gravity is far easier than beating the laws of thermodynamics.

Hey, if you like the sounds of this stuffff, by all means, invest away your life savings. My money is in gas & oil.

51 posted on 08/01/2007 11:06:14 AM PDT by Clam Digger
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To: nuke rocketeer

Thanks for pointing out something nobody realized. We would shut down the turbine if we knew how. The old man died and never told us how to shut the thing off. I suppose we could just take the load offline and let it over rev and explode, but Homeland Security would have us filling out forms for a week.


52 posted on 08/01/2007 11:06:18 AM PDT by RightWhale (It's Brecht's donkey, not mine)
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To: Red Badger
I have a HALF Lhasa-Apso HALF Shih-tzu I call a Lotsa Shitzoo.....

A friend has a bull terrrier/shih tzu mix, a bull shih-tz.

53 posted on 08/01/2007 11:07:56 AM PDT by Clam Digger
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To: Clam Digger

Nay sayers then I guess.


54 posted on 08/01/2007 11:08:58 AM PDT by Leatherneck_MT (Famously frisky)
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To: Para-Ord.45

I can create hydrogen and oxygen from saltwater using nothing but electricity and get it to burn with a very hot flame, bypassing the whole RF generator step.


55 posted on 08/01/2007 11:09:00 AM PDT by -YYZ- (Strong like bull, smart like ox.)
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To: Leatherneck_MT
I’m glad there are people like that still in this world that will go out and try and do something regardless of those “who know better”.

I'll bet you have plenty of snake oil on hand, too.

56 posted on 08/01/2007 11:10:09 AM PDT by Clam Digger
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To: Fudd
"No, I can't. There's a lot I don't know about nuclear physics, RF energy, and sea water chemistry. What I do know, though, leads me to suspect the claim, while possible, is not highly probable."

If and I stress "IF" the RF energy broke the bonds of the sodium in the salt then the pure sodium in water makes for some serious BOOM power(remembering HS chem class where my 150 year old maid science teacher dropped way too much sodium in a beaker of water and BOOM).

Again, the big if is if less energy is expended separating the Sodium bonds then is released when the sodium combines with water liberating Hydrogen then he is on to something. Unfortunately all the IFs usually = No Way.

57 posted on 08/01/2007 11:10:33 AM PDT by Wurlitzer (Islam or lawyers. Which one is lower on the food chain?)
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To: Clam Digger

Just a nay sayer.


58 posted on 08/01/2007 11:12:10 AM PDT by Leatherneck_MT (Famously frisky)
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To: Para-Ord.45

Fuel cells.


59 posted on 08/01/2007 11:12:17 AM PDT by onedoug
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To: Leatherneck_MT
Nay sayers then I guess.

Those of us who took thermodynamics actually understand why to be naysayers. By your own admission, you know nothing about this stuff (and say you don't care, but are still psoting away with great ignorance), and cannot comprehend the laws of thermodynamics and why they prove this is not possible. Us "naysayers" as you like to call us, we know better, thank you. Have a nice day.

60 posted on 08/01/2007 11:12:50 AM PDT by Clam Digger
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