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To: LeGrande
To sum up your two posts, would it be fair to say that your evidence that God exists is mankind's desire and need for a God?

It would be fair only for the 2nd post ("Part 2"), not for the first. But yes, the 2nd post is more or less my circumstantial case for God's existence.

Maybe you didn't read the first post (admittedly lengthy), but it mentioned my own personal experiences that left little room for doubt, though I didn't go into any details because, as I said, you would likely ascribe them to mental illness, substance abuse or severe wishful thinking. But also as I said, I am willing to discuss them if you are sincerely (as opposed to cynically) interested in hearing about them.

From there, I went to "The Impossible Faith", which was very specific to Christianity. I gave a link and then summarized a few of the key points about how in the context of the Ancient Near East, Christianity should have never expanded beyond being a tiny cult in northern Palestine, yet it spread like wildfire throughout the Roman Empire.

Doesn’t any old God fill that need, Allah, Zeus, Despater?

Not if that god doesn't exist.

I happen to know a few people who feel that Allah has touched their lives personally.

God has touched everyone's life personally -- first by bringing them into existence, and then every good or ultimately good thing (blessings in disguise) ever since. So it often happens that a Muslim will think it's Allah, etc.

I asked for evidence that wouldn’t apply to the other Gods, do you have any?

As I said above, I gave you some evidence very specific to Christianity but apparently you didn't read it.

164 posted on 08/21/2007 8:55:52 AM PDT by Zhangliqun (The Blue and Gray had infinitely more in common than the Blue and Red. We're headed for Civil War.)
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To: Zhangliqun
Maybe you didn't read the first post (admittedly lengthy), but it mentioned my own personal experiences that left little room for doubt, though I didn't go into any details because, as I said, you would likely ascribe them to mental illness, substance abuse or severe wishful thinking. But also as I said, I am willing to discuss them if you are sincerely (as opposed to cynically) interested in hearing about them.

Wishfull thinking and a severe lack of skeptical reasoning.

From there, I went to "The Impossible Faith", which was very specific to Christianity. I gave a link and then summarized a few of the key points about how in the context of the Ancient Near East, Christianity should have never expanded beyond being a tiny cult in northern Palestine, yet it spread like wildfire throughout the Roman Empire.

So your logic is that logically Christianity shouldn't have spread and because it did it means that Christ is God? Do I even need to refute that logically? With that logic I can prove anything that people happen to believe.

Doesn’t any old God fill that need, Allah, Zeus, Despater?

Not if that god doesn't exist.

Are you saying that Allah doesn't fulfill the religious needs of 1.3 Billion Islamists? By your own faulty logic the more worshipers a religion has proves its truth ^_^

As I said above, I gave you some evidence very specific to Christianity but apparently you didn't read it.

I am simply asking for evidence. Logic and reasoning should only be used to understand the facts in evidence.

The basis for any truth has to be evidence and facts, without that you have nothing and can believe anything.

165 posted on 08/21/2007 9:54:48 AM PDT by LeGrande (Muslims, Jews and Christians all believe in the same God of Abraham.)
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