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The liberal edge
N\.Y. Post ^ | July 27, 2007 | John Podhoretz

Posted on 07/28/2007 3:45:31 AM PDT by bilhosty

THE turn in the polls against the Republican Party appears to be stunning in its ferocity

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To: bilhosty
First, the bog-down of the Iraq effort caused independent voters especially to pull away from the Republicans. Second, the fact that there hadn't (and still hasn't) been a second major terrorist attack on American soil allowed voters to take this accomplishment for granted. And so, after five years, voters returned to the place they were on election night in 2000.

Nailed it. Democrats let the republicans clean up THEIR mess and let the voters think that they never needed the republican party to begin with.

41 posted on 07/28/2007 6:19:09 AM PDT by paltz
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To: Vision
Yes, the old Rockefeller wing liberals have been supplanted by Democrats. Reaganite conservatives are practically non-existent in New England and New York. The voters are seeing there's no difference. Why choose a faux liberal when you can have the authentic one in a Democrat? And they're right. The GOP there is a shell of its former self that will never be resurrected - it has gone to where political parties die.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

42 posted on 07/28/2007 6:24:35 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: Darkwolf377

Forget Fred, Sheriff Joe is the way to go.


43 posted on 07/28/2007 6:28:04 AM PDT by Paladin2 (Islam is the religion of violins, NOT peas.)
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To: live+let_live

Its simple folks we are outnumbered ,period ,immigration,low paying service oriented jobs ,human nature being what it is and the intentional stoking of the basest of human instincts of jealousy ,greed ,like the rich dont pay their fair share,pitting one group against the other ,blacks against white ,hispanics ,women against men ,gays against heterosexuals ,old against young .What do you expect and all this is done in the never ending quest for political power . Read “Witness” by Whitaker Chambers it is all there ,create chaos and confusion ,anarchy, and the all powerful government comes in as the saviour and you get a totalitarian paradise. This country has been dead for some time we just dont know it yet ,and no one knows this better than Bin Laden ,they are just biding their time for the right moment ,we are killing ourselves from within we just need a little push for total chaos


44 posted on 07/28/2007 6:30:24 AM PDT by ballplayer
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To: goldstategop

You probably meant northeast.


45 posted on 07/28/2007 6:33:38 AM PDT by Vision ("Blessed is the man who trusts in the Lord, whose confidence is in him." Jeremiah 17:7)
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To: Scotswife

A good list, but you omitted an early and serious outrage - McCain-Feingold. The President’s support for this bill was cowardly and dissembling - a betrayal of stated principles, and a violation of the Constitution he swore to preserve, protect, and defend.

He has been steadfast on many issues, but far from it on many, as well.


46 posted on 07/28/2007 6:37:04 AM PDT by MainFrame65 (The US Senate: World's greatest PREVARICATIVE body!)
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To: Scotswife

I could not disagree more the contract was a pivotal moment. Remember that everything in the contract was brought to the floor and voted on. Most of it was passed. Newt was the driving force. The party went wrong the last six years when they allowed the Democrats to define them and did nothing to defend the party. Preferring to cower and hope the attacks would go away. Much of this pitiful behavior was at the behest of Geo. Bush doing what his father did before him “try to get along with the Democrats”.


47 posted on 07/28/2007 6:39:33 AM PDT by ontap (Just another backstabbing conservative)
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To: bilhosty

It’s easier than that - we fail to keep our promises, and too many Republicans have drunk the D.C. kool-aid. We buy into the legalized corruption which should be done away with. Cutting government and taxes are not tired messages. We have failed to deliver.


48 posted on 07/28/2007 6:44:00 AM PDT by bioqubit (bioqubit, conformity - such a common deformity)
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To: MainFrame65

A good addition to the list.
I didn’t follow that debate very closely so I forgot about it.


49 posted on 07/28/2007 6:48:37 AM PDT by Scotswife
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To: bilhosty

I work at a university and I’ve watched student workers deteriorate over the past 25 years. Each year the number of truly intelligent students seems to decrease. MTV, public education, and the nutty left dominate their minds.

Even the ones who seemingly are capable of thinking don’t seem to try. Last year a student worker who seemed quite capable told me that Republicans scare the hell out of him. I asked why, and he said Republicans put dissidents in concentration camps. He added that he’d written an essay denouncing Bush for one of his lefty professors and was convinced that Bush knew about it and had him on some kind of list somewhere.

They absorb all this crap from Michael Moore, Daily Kos, MTV, and their teachers. Most of them want three things in life:

1) To be able to do whatever they damn well please when it comes to sex.

2) To be given everything for “free”.

3) Not to ever have to fight in a war, no matter what.

In addition, they repeat all the nonsense about multiculturalism, diversity, global warming, etc.

Granted, there are still plenty of good kids out there, and I get to see the worst of the worst sometimes. But 25 years ago there was more of a balance. Maybe half the kids who worked in my department had some common sense, understood that nothing in life is free, knew that war was unfortunate but sometimes necessary, and had some values. Today it’s about ten percent.


50 posted on 07/28/2007 6:50:14 AM PDT by puroresu
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To: ontap
What we have to do is rid ourselves of these sheep and elect conservatives ...

I agree but for me to help in that effort I would have to move and that isn't going to happen. I'm blessed with state and congressional conservative Republlican representation.

Last Thursday our state representative came for a lunch meeting to give a report on the recent state legislature. There were about 35 people present including several elected Dems. He started his report by saying, "I'm a right-wing conservative and offer no apologies. I'm proud to have been voted one of the most conservative members of the TX Legislature." He never minces words; ask him a question and you're going to get an answer --doesn't matter who agrees or disagrees.

He " retired" for one term and ran again due to public pressure after being replaced one term by a RINO. A lot of the pressure for him to run again came from elected Dems who told him that they didn't always agree with him but at least they could TRUST him to do what he said. He NEVER said one thing and did another like the RINO had done.

51 posted on 07/28/2007 6:52:14 AM PDT by lonestar
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To: ontap

you and I really aren’t disagreeing at all...I’m not disputing that the Contract was, for awhile, a good thing that connected with middle America.
But where is it now?

You point out correctly the party has gone “wrong” the last 6 years, and you are right.

For a brief time we were given the impression that the “Contract” was going to be a continuing relationship with republicans trying to work for families.

But once Newt hit a brick wall - politics returned to business as usual.
Newt turned out to be a typical politician, who was affective for awhile but in the end was exposed for what he is.

The republican party returned to DC politics and forgot about the Contract.


52 posted on 07/28/2007 6:52:23 AM PDT by Scotswife
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To: bilhosty

We need the Republican in NY who lost the Senate seat to Hillary to run, I forget his name, but in fly over country, he’d be very popular(don’t know how they bribed NY into electing her).


53 posted on 07/28/2007 6:53:05 AM PDT by Son House ($$Proud Memeber of Vast Right Wing, Out To Lower Your Tax Rates For More Opportunities.$$)
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To: bilhosty
Sorry, but I don't buy it. JPod's making too many assumptions here and only tossing together some anecdotal evidence that don't directly back up his arguments (he admits as much in his last paragraph).

I tend to think we might be looking at a "Throw the Bums Out" situation in November 2008 (look at the current approval rating of Congress, which is so low that Bush's numbers are more than twice as high). And if so, the political carnage will be bipartisan, and the only winners will be whichever "newbies" are best-organized (cf. the Gingrich Revolution in '94).

54 posted on 07/28/2007 6:59:25 AM PDT by Dont Mention the War (My voting record: Rudy '89, Rudy '93, Rudy '97, Rudy '08. (Why not piss off BOTH sides?))
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To: Son House

Rick Santorum.


55 posted on 07/28/2007 7:05:04 AM PDT by Son House ($$Proud Memeber of Vast Right Wing, Out To Lower Your Tax Rates For More Opportunities.$$)
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To: Scotswife

Newt has a big character flaw, that doesn’t mean that his idea wasn’t a good one. He implemented it and it worked splendidly. trouble is the party could not keep it going after his demise. The same old moderates and CYA politicians drifted right back to their same old habits. And that’s how we got Bill Frist Trent Lot and the rest of the hide under the bed moderates.


56 posted on 07/28/2007 7:05:15 AM PDT by ontap (Just another backstabbing conservative)
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To: Son House

No! it was Rick Lasio


57 posted on 07/28/2007 7:08:10 AM PDT by ontap (Just another backstabbing conservative)
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To: bilhosty
The polls right now are basically WORTHLESS!!!

The only reason the GOP is polling poorly is due to the base still being pissed over immigration, the GOP's gutless lack of fighting back, too much spending. If someone like Fred Thompson gets the nomination, a huge number of currently disgruntled base members will come home.

58 posted on 07/28/2007 7:10:50 AM PDT by AmericaUnited
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To: ontap

“Newt has a big character flaw, that doesn’t mean that his idea wasn’t a good one.”

I’m not saying his idea wasn’t a good one.
And sure he had a big flaw - one that is typical to most political animals - he presented himself as a champion for family values while personally trampling on them.

“trouble is the party could not keep it going after his demise. “

agreed, and why should they? They are politicians and politicans have to make promises to people in order to get elected. Promises they cannot keep.
They have to raise crazy amounts of money during election campaigns and then spend it rapidly. They forget that this is not how real people deal with money.

So, we wind up with a bunch of guys who are trained to lie to people and are good at wasting alot of money.
And then we act surprised when they don’t make good on their promises and are wasteful with taxpayers’ money.


59 posted on 07/28/2007 7:15:19 AM PDT by Scotswife
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To: ontap

Thanks for correction, I still mean Rick Santorum, geuss my memory is a little like Hillary’s memory under oath.


60 posted on 07/28/2007 7:21:51 AM PDT by Son House ($$Proud Memeber of Vast Right Wing, Out To Lower Your Tax Rates For More Opportunities.$$)
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