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Vandy Prof: Split up the 9th Circuit, Cut Down the Wackiness
The Law Blog (Wall Street Journal) ^ | 7/11/2007 | Ashby Jones

Posted on 07/12/2007 8:28:12 AM PDT by TheDoctorNoh

For years, the 9th Circuit has been the Supreme Court’s whipping boy. And this year was no different: The Court reversed more opinions from the 9th Circuit than any other: According to an Op-Ed in today’s LA Times, the Court reversed or vacated a whopping 19 cases out of 22 it took from the 9th Circuit. (Skeptics of 9th Circuit decisions aren’t limited to Washington, though. Several years ago, we heard a respected federal judge in New York refer to the circuit — in open court and not entirely in jest, it seemed — as “the land of fruits and nuts.”)

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Government; US: California
KEYWORDS: ninthcircuit; supremecourt
Wow, some sensible recommenations from an academian!

"The Court reversed or vacated a whopping 19 cases out of 22 it took from the 9th Circuit"

Holy moley! Why do these guys even bother?

1 posted on 07/12/2007 8:28:14 AM PDT by TheDoctorNoh
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To: TheDoctorNoh; middie
Middie

The trend not only continues, it worsens. Do you still think the 9th Circuit’s performance is acceptable?

2 posted on 07/12/2007 8:34:19 AM PDT by Natty Bumppo@frontier.net (The facts of life are conservative -- Margaret Thatcher)
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To: TheDoctorNoh

Kind of hard now.

The Republicans should have done it when they were in charge.


3 posted on 07/12/2007 8:34:30 AM PDT by Mr. Brightside
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To: TheDoctorNoh

These bastards have jurisdiction in Alaska too. Makes me sick.


4 posted on 07/12/2007 8:34:50 AM PDT by vpintheak (Like a muddied spring or a polluted well is a righteous man who gives way to the wicked. Prov. 25:26)
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To: Mr. Brightside

Yep.


5 posted on 07/12/2007 8:35:15 AM PDT by Badeye (You know its a kook site when they ban the word 'kook')
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To: TheDoctorNoh
From the comments: And the fact that the Ninth Circuit gets reversed the most has more to do with the ideological differences between the Supreme Court and the Ninth Circuit than any question of extremism — the entire premise of this argument is that the Supreme Court is a neutral arbiter, when we all know that the current Supreme Court is quite extremist. Perhaps being reversed the most is a sign of the Ninth Circuit’s relative moderation.

You just can't get that delusional without massive amounts of recreational pharmaceuticals.

6 posted on 07/12/2007 8:48:57 AM PDT by vikingd00d
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To: Mr. Brightside
The Republicans should have done it when they were in charge.

The attempt was made. It failed.

7 posted on 07/12/2007 8:53:03 AM PDT by MARTIAL MONK
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To: TheDoctorNoh

Would splitting them up just create 2 wacky courts?


8 posted on 07/12/2007 8:55:53 AM PDT by Raycpa
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To: TheDoctorNoh

Sen Murkowski has sponsored a bill in the Senate to split up the Ninth and put Alaska in a new Circuit. That was a while back. Amazing it hasn’t happened.


9 posted on 07/12/2007 8:59:55 AM PDT by RightWhale (It's Brecht's donkey, not mine)
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To: TheDoctorNoh

Splitting it is not going to solve the problem. Eliminate it... That will solve the problem.


10 posted on 07/12/2007 9:12:20 AM PDT by Brilliant
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To: MARTIAL MONK
The attempt was made. It failed.

The Republicans attempted to break up the 9th Circuit about as strongly as they attempted to cut spending. All talk.

11 posted on 07/12/2007 10:17:56 AM PDT by Mr. Brightside
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To: vikingd00d
"Perhaps being reversed the most is a sign of the Ninth Circuit’s relative moderation."

Which impies what about all the other courts that aren't overturned by The Supremes? Ninth Circus defenders might as well paraphrase the Faulkner Sisters: "Why, everybody in the federal courts is pixelated - Yes, every one but US!"

12 posted on 07/12/2007 10:41:33 AM PDT by Nevermore
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To: vikingd00d
You just can't get that delusional without massive amounts of recreational pharmaceuticals.

LOL!

That reality ties in perfectly with the other thread discussing the "self-evident" nature of the Declaration of Independence's "We hold these truths to be self evident..."

13 posted on 07/12/2007 10:52:25 AM PDT by Publius6961 (MSM: Israelis are killed by rockets; Lebanese are killed by Israelis.)
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To: Natty Bumppo@frontier.net

I’ve been in a lengthy trial away from FL in a distant state and 100% consumed with that endeavor. To answer your question: the 9th Cir has some brillant judges and have often been out front of the remainder of the judiciary and the Supremes. Is their performance acceptable? Of course it is, that’s why we have a Supreme Court that is not last because they’re correct, but correct because they’re last. The circuit courts are there to apply their best interpretation of either the statute or common law principle at issue. It’s a collective wisdom at work and the panel —or even the en banc court— is bound to apply the precedents from the 9th and the Supreme, however wrong or erroneous they may be. I do not agree that courts, even the newly constituted Supreme Court, engages in a result oriented approach to the cases they consider. There’s no doubt that the 9th, just as the new Supreme Court, is comprised of jurists whose view of the law follows a more-or-less consistent interpretive methodology. But I will never believe that any appellate judge approaches a case and record with a predisposition; not even the equally different judges of the 5th circuit who are just as predicable at the end of the spectrum opposite from the 9th. None of them are corrupt or evil in their orientation that arises from their background and experiences in the practice or on an inferior court when dealing with the broad array of cases and legal doctrines that come before the courts. The same is true of the Supreme court at any time in its history. A study of the Supreme in several subject, the antitrust statue comes to mind, illustrates precisely what I said here. The same is true with respect to labor law, consumers and the entire cross-section of legal disciplines.


14 posted on 08/01/2007 1:26:47 PM PDT by middie
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