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Boeing wins $2bn contract to rewing A-10s
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| 7/5/2007
| Graham Warwick
Posted on 07/05/2007 2:40:09 PM PDT by Excuse_My_Bellicosity
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To: BearCub
You can't just go out and copy someone else's design of a plane, boat, wing, whatever. YOU can't, that's for sure.
But what the US government (referred to hereafter as US) may do is likely quite a different story, as this design was prepared for US, paid for by US, and owned by US. That makes it ours, and the contract terms undoubtedly make that clear.
I'd be floored if there was any possibility that the A-10's original designers had anything whatsoever to say about what the US does now with their planes.
To: TangoLimaSierra
-—I remember seeing A-10s returning from runs in Laos when I was stationed in Thailand in 69.-—
The first production A-10A was delivered to Davis-Monthan Air Force Base, Ariz., in October 1975.
Date Deployed: March 1976
A-10/OA-10 THUNDERBOLT II
http://www.af.mil/factsheets/factsheet.asp?id=70
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posted on
07/05/2007 3:38:33 PM PDT
by
thackney
(life is fragile, handle with prayer)
To: John Valentine
But what the US government (referred to hereafter as US) may do is likely quite a different story, as this design was prepared for US, paid for by US, and owned by US. That makes it ours, and the contract terms undoubtedly make that clear I'm sure that's the case (the contract thing).
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posted on
07/05/2007 3:39:52 PM PDT
by
BearCub
To: Tommyjo
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posted on
07/05/2007 3:43:43 PM PDT
by
null and void
(A large gov't agency is more expensive than a smaller agency with the same mission, yet does less)
To: saganite
Dont think so. You may be thinking of the A-7, the A-4 or most likely the A-1 Sandy.
Or the A-26/B-26K Invader. About the same size as an A-10, lots of external hardpoints on the wings plus a gunnose (with 8 .50s).
To: Excuse_My_Bellicosity
Back in the 80’s we would go out in the pine barrens of southern NJ on the edge of the Warren Grove bombing range. It was sweet watching those warthogs dive at their targets. Back then we also saw F4s and F111s.
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posted on
07/05/2007 3:44:09 PM PDT
by
4yearlurker
(Liberals, A terrorists best friend!)
To: null and void
Gotta wonder if the kegs used to simulate the TF-34s are “operational” ...
To: Beckwith
Copyright and patent are subservient to the details of Fairchild’s contract with the DOD. The contract would spell out the DOD’s right to contract with other companies to build more aircraft or spare parts. You could assume that since the original jigs no longer exist, Fairchild couldn’t supply replacement wings in a timely fashion.
To: Excuse_My_Bellicosity
Great aviation news! But...
Wouldn't it be easier to tool up and build new entire planes?
Let's see... wings only... I assume that includes integral fuel tanks... Ummmm OK...
$2billion divided by 242 = roughly...
$8,264,462.81 per "wing"!
Holy mackarel!
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posted on
07/05/2007 3:46:48 PM PDT
by
Publius6961
(MSM: Israelis are killed by rockets; Lebanese are killed by Israelis.)
To: null and void
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posted on
07/05/2007 3:48:38 PM PDT
by
traumer
To: Publius6961
But those wings brought this man home...
Tell his mommy it wasn't worth it...
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posted on
07/05/2007 3:50:06 PM PDT
by
null and void
(A large gov't agency is more expensive than a smaller agency with the same mission, yet does less)
To: MediaMole
I am quite familiar with federal contracts.
I responded to the copyright issue.
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posted on
07/05/2007 3:52:06 PM PDT
by
Beckwith
(dhimmicrats and the liberal media have chosen sides -- Islamofascism)
To: Excuse_My_Bellicosity
And to think they were on the chopping block in 1990. Wow
To: null and void
General government contract law - if the Gov pays me to design an airplane, I have commercial rights to the design (I can sell it to US Air, eg, subject to export control), but the government has unlimited use rights for their own purposes - they can hire anyone they want to build copies for government use.
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posted on
07/05/2007 3:55:13 PM PDT
by
patton
(19yrs ... only 4,981yrs to go ;))
To: 4yearlurker
Awesome sites to say the least! Sometimes they even ventured over to the Nevada Test Site for some real fun!
To: null and void
Love the van, Nully...LOL!!
(Is it yours??)
To: tanknetter; saganite; null and void; TangoLimaSierra; cripplecreek; SierraWasp
Re:
Or the A-26/B-26K Invader. About the same size as an A-10, lots of external hardpoints on the wings plus a gunnose (with 8 .50s). Two...
of my best sellers!
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posted on
07/05/2007 4:01:01 PM PDT
by
Bender2
(A 'Good Yankee' comes down to Texas, then goes back north. A 'Damn Yankee' stays... Damn it!)
To: BearCub
Gov’t (AF) owns the drawings so no copyright.
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posted on
07/05/2007 4:02:43 PM PDT
by
shawnlaw
(Things is things and parts is parts...)
To: Excuse_My_Bellicosity
There was some decent video of Warthogs doing a strafing and missile run on the Transformer movie, it was actually a pretty darn good show, I took my 13 year old son to see it yesterday.
To: Bender2
My grandfather got a ride in a B-17 a few months before he died. He was one of 4 WWII vets that took the place of men from the original crew who had already passed away.
They took off from Willow Run where the plane was built and flew to Oshkosh. We went and watched them take off. That was one proud bunch of octogenarians.
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posted on
07/05/2007 4:07:44 PM PDT
by
cripplecreek
(Greed is NOT a conservative ideal.)
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