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If 'Islamist' is out, what do we call them?
Telegraph.co.uk ^ | 7/4/07 | Andrew Marr

Posted on 07/04/2007 4:40:34 AM PDT by VA Voter

If it were proved that highly qualified, ambitious doctors were Islamist mass-murder plotters, it would put a hole through another comforting theory - that this is "all about" under-employed young men of low self-esteem and educational attainments.

It is comforting, because it suggests that al-Qa'eda can be defeated by more money spent on sixth-form colleges. But it now joins the theory that this is "all about" the misdemeanours of the House of Saud, or "all about" the persecution of the Palestinians. All of these things matter, and they are all part of the picture, but it is never a bad idea to take your enemy at his word.

So when the terror websites gloat about killing "slags" who have the temerity to attend nightclubs, or look forward to the imposition of sharia in the West, and attack our corrupt democratic values, shouldn't we take that seriously? It isn't about oil or an underclass or the crimes of Western nations. It's about values. It's about exactly what they say it's about.

On Start the Week on Monday, all the distinguished guests, including the philosopher John Gray and the historian Eric Hobsbawm, vehemently agreed that the word "Islamist", which I have used at the top of this column, was wrong and dangerous. It implied a strong link to Islam, which was unfair. I thought the distinction between "Islamic" and "Islamist" was enough: but if we need a new and more accurate word for extremist Muslims, what is it?

Any particular strain of Islam, such as Wahhabism, is only the more lethally libelled if you try to narrow things that way. The trouble with looking for bland words is that you lose touch with reality. You'll end up by calling them Powd-ists (People of Whom we Disapprove) or Bacromists (Bad Cross Men). All sensible suggestions welcome. Meanwhile, it's our patriotic duty to single out the nearest nightclub, and get along there as soon as possible.


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In honor of Gordon Brown's edict that the word Muslim or Islamic not be used in reference to terrorism, here is a politically correct alternative: "NABCHJS".

NABCHJS pronounced NAB CHIS

It stands for: Not Atheists Buddhists Christians Hindus Jews Seculars

Usage: The NABCHJS terrorists blew up a disco in downtown London last night.

Cheers,

1 posted on 07/04/2007 4:40:36 AM PDT by VA Voter
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To: VA Voter

Our ‘splodin’ friends.


2 posted on 07/04/2007 4:42:29 AM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (~~~Jihad Fever -- Catch It !~~~ (Backup tag: "Live Fred or Die"))
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To: VA Voter

just call the what they are ...F’n muzzie terrorists!!!

why dance around the issue....they will call for jihad and beheadings no matter what they are called!

The five pillars of Islam..... murder, bestiality, terrorism, cowardice and abuse of women and children.

Know islam, no peace; No islam, know peace!
If the Arabs put down their guns, there would be no more violence. If the Israelis put down their guns, there would be no more Israel.

The Pope was correct in his quote....”Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached.” -Manuel II Paleologus


3 posted on 07/04/2007 4:46:43 AM PDT by nyyankeefan
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To: VA Voter
On Start the Week on Monday, all the distinguished guests, including the philosopher John Gray and the historian Eric Hobsbawm, vehemently agreed that the word "Islamist", which I have used at the top of this column, was wrong and dangerous. It implied a strong link to Islam, which was unfair.

No, it's fair as the following article confirms.

Islamic Scholar Warns U.S. of 'Two-Faced' Muslims
4 posted on 07/04/2007 4:49:53 AM PDT by Man50D (Fair Tax , you earn it , you keep it!)
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To: VA Voter

Targets


5 posted on 07/04/2007 4:49:54 AM PDT by DainBramage
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To: VA Voter
If "islamist" is out, what do we call them?

I prefer "corpses".

6 posted on 07/04/2007 4:53:03 AM PDT by jslade (The beatings well cease when morale improves!)
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To: Man50D

That’d be like someone during WWII being upset with the term Nazi because it implied a strong link with Germany.


7 posted on 07/04/2007 4:53:57 AM PDT by mainepatsfan
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To: VA Voter

Anybody who doesnt believe that Islam is a cult of evil and death is full of Shiite.


8 posted on 07/04/2007 4:55:48 AM PDT by sgtbono2002 (http://www.imwithfred.com/index.aspx)
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To: VA Voter

if we need a new and more accurate word for extremist Muslims, what is it

How about “Killers”?


9 posted on 07/04/2007 4:58:47 AM PDT by hgro (Jerry Riversd)
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Can I suggest we call them TWWTBUUs...(pronounced "twitboos")

Those Who Want To Blow Us Up

10 posted on 07/04/2007 4:59:20 AM PDT by ken5050
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To: VA Voter
but it is never a bad idea to take your enemy at his word.

Something our leaders resolutely refuse to do. Also, it bears remembering that these words inciting violence, rapine, and forced subjugation are not the product of 20th century radicals, but happen to be in the Koran itself. So therefore, I suggest we drop "Islamist" and simply call them what they are: Muslims.

Violence and conquest are part and parcel of their cult and have been since the beginning.

11 posted on 07/04/2007 5:00:38 AM PDT by livius
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control the sheep by controlling the language

liberalism 101


12 posted on 07/04/2007 5:01:38 AM PDT by bert (K.E. N.P. +12 . Happiness is a down sleeping bag)
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To: VA Voter
Gordon Brown stepped into the spotlight and announced to all the world that he is a Fool.

The people of the world groaned.

13 posted on 07/04/2007 5:02:45 AM PDT by Savage Beast (Ignore the will of the people at your peril, Political "Aristocrats"!)
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Islamofascist. Or barring that, ABJC Party. Any One But Judeo Christian Party.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

14 posted on 07/04/2007 5:02:52 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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“Anybody who doesnt believe that Islam is a cult of evil and death is full of Shiite.”

THAT’s IT!

Refer to them as P.O.S. - “Pieces of Shiite”


15 posted on 07/04/2007 5:09:48 AM PDT by mark3681
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To: VA Voter

Just show me one incident where Islam is policing it up its radicals, and I may be convinced that is some good there.


16 posted on 07/04/2007 5:16:10 AM PDT by oyez (Justa' another high minded lowlife.)
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To: VA Voter

“If ‘Islamist’ is out, what do we call them?”

Rag-headed jihadis... members of satan’s death cult.

LLS


17 posted on 07/04/2007 5:20:27 AM PDT by LibLieSlayer (Support America, Kill terrorists, Destroy dims!)
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To: Man50D

Not all muzzies are terrorists... but 99 44/100% of terrorists are muzzies!

LLS


18 posted on 07/04/2007 5:21:27 AM PDT by LibLieSlayer (Support America, Kill terrorists, Destroy dims!)
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To: VA Voter

Troglodytes sounds good to me.


19 posted on 07/04/2007 5:22:07 AM PDT by csvset
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To: sgtbono2002

“Anybody who doesnt believe that Islam is a cult of evil and death is full of Shiite.”

What you said... repeat and rinse!!!

LLS


20 posted on 07/04/2007 5:22:34 AM PDT by LibLieSlayer (Support America, Kill terrorists, Destroy dims!)
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