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To: EdLake
It's a known fact that Meselson is and has always been a unilateral disarmament type.

He may not be quite as extreme a left-wing radical as someone such as Barbara Hatch Rosenberg, but he definitely leans in that direction.

So, it's not much of a surprise that he would go out of his way to try and portray the anthrax attacks as being "domestic" as opposed to a foreign terrorist attack.

Because let's be totally honest here: a foreign biological terrorist attack on America would pretty much undermine everything the life work of him and those who think like him.

85 posted on 07/12/2007 8:22:44 AM PDT by jpl (Dear Al Gore: it's 3:00 A.M., do you know where your drug addicted son is?)
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To: jpl
Agree with that. Even if the anthrax was produced in a US BW lab that would undermine Meselson's beliefs that his treaty is adhered to. Thus it's in his interests to deny that it was military grade anthrax. The facts are still the facts. AFIP reported that silica was used to enable aerosolization. Meselson refuses to aknowledge the existence of this report. His agenda is clear. He spoofed the author of the C&E News article, Lois Embers, claiming that AFIP published a spectrum of only a silicon peak. http://pubs.acs.org/cen/government/84/8449gov1.html Sometimes scientists misspoke as well, as was the case with the Armed Forces Institute of Pathology. AFIP studied the anthrax powder from the Daschle letter using energy dispersive X-ray spectrometry, and a top AFIP scientist, Florabell G. Mullick, reported the presence of silica in an AFIP newsletter. Yet, the spectrum AFIP released shows a peak for the element silicon, not silicon dioxide (silica). This is completely untrue. AFIP published a spectrum of silicon dioxide (silica) - not silicon. Lois Embers was too lazy to check - she simply beleived Meselson. She could have checked right here on FR: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/841229/posts
86 posted on 07/12/2007 8:36:13 AM PDT by TrebleRebel
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excerpts from Mangold and Goldberg’s Plague Wars:

CHAPTER NINE Incident at Sverdlovsk

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The Soviets now went to extraordinary lengths to buttress their lies and make them supportable and credible worldwide. What had begun as a local cover-up in Sverdlovsk, now became an international fairy tale, a fiction of breathtaking audacity.

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Throughout the rest of the 1980s, Matthew Meselson, a respected Harvard professor of microbiology and longtime arms control activist, unwittingly helped the Soviet caravan of deception and disinformation gain acceptance in the West.
Meselson emerged as the leading scientific expert to oppose his own government’s interpretation of Sverdlovsk in favour of the Soviets’ old tainted-meat cover-up. He defended the Soviets’ case publicly and doubtless from the most honest of beliefs. President Reagan was now in the White House and, no matter how forcefully his administration complained about Sverdlovsk, Meselson remained utterly convinced that there had been an accident with bad meat and it had nothing to do with any secret biological weapons plant.
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With his well-deserved and impressive academic/scientific credentials, his views were usually sought and carefully listened to. He also became an important figure for the US media to consult. His opinions about Sverdlovsk were widely quoted in the serious press, books, and prestigious scientific journals. The record shows that after 1980 his publicly stated views on Sverdlovsk broadly agreed with the explanations issued by the Soviets themselves.

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But the guilty involvement reached even higher. Next, it emerged that Boris Yelstin himself also must have known about the cover-up. In May 1992, Yeltsin’s new Russian government formally acknowledged what was now well known, but still had no official imprimatur. The man who had been the powerful communist party chief of the Sverdlovsk region in 1979 was none other than President Boris Yeltsin. He now admitted that the outbreak had been caused by an accident at the biological weapons facility, and not by natural causes. This presumably correct version became the official position of the Russian government, and remains so to this day.
Meselson, however, remained unfazed. In the face of Yeltsin’s admission and the Russian and US press disclosures, the professor assembled a team of expert American scientists and went with them to Sverdlovsk in June 1992 to see for himself. They interviewed two outstanding Sverdlovsk doctors Faina Abramova and Lev Grinberg who participated in the 1979 autopsies at Hospital 40. For thirteen years, these brave pathologists had secretly hidden incontrovertible medial evidence from the KGB including preserved tissue samples, slides, and autopsy reports which proved that the victims had died from breathing in the anthrax.
Meselson later claimed that he and his team had made the discovery of the new truth from these important witnesses, but again, the facts were against him. The two Russian doctors had previously spoken to Soviet reporters and the Wall Street Journal, so Meselson was simply taking credit for being the final arbiter who had authenticated the evidence.
After making a second trip to Sverdlovsk, Mesleson finally published his results in 1994 in the journal Science; the article accepted that the tainted-meat story was bogus. But, perversely, he still would not admit that the US government had been right for fifteen years, or that he had been wrong. Rather, he trumpeted the fact that he anf his team had finally uncovered the “defenitive proof” that the true cause of the outbreak was pulmonary anthrax.
“This should end the argument about where the outbreak came from,” Meselson somewhat pompously told the New York Times “Right up until now, people have still been debating the matter.”
Yet, to the bitter end, Meselson still clung to a benign interpretation of Soviet motives. He noted that the cause of the accident was still not determined, which implied that it may have involved only a Soviet research centre, one for finding an antidote to an anthrax attack, and not a military production centre for biological weapons. By clinging to this position, he could still argue that the Soviets were not violating the BWC, but were conducting permissable research under the treaty.


88 posted on 07/12/2007 8:44:48 AM PDT by TrebleRebel
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To: jpl
Because let's be totally honest here: a foreign biological terrorist attack on America would pretty much undermine everything the life work of him and those who think like him.

So, you're saying .... what? That Professor Meselson is some supermastermind behind some sinister plot to cover up the true nature of the attack anthrax?

Are you saying that he somehow "duped" the FBI into lying about the nature of the attack anthrax? Wouldn't that mean he also "duped" everyone else who said or implied that they saw no additives in the anthrax?

For example, did he also "dupe" General Parker of USAMRIID into saying a week after they started examining the Daschle anthrax that, even though silicon and oxygen were detected in the anthrax, and "although we may see some things on the microscopic field that may look like foreign elements, we don't know that they're additives, we don't know what they are, and we're continuing to do research to find out what they possible could be. They're unknowns to us at this present time."?

Surely, after a week he'd have been able to tell if the spores were coated or not. Do you believe he is part of Meselson's sinister plot?

Or are you simply saying that, because you disagree with Professor Meselson's political views, he must be opposed on anything he says -- even if he's right?

Ed at www.anthraxinvestigation.com

91 posted on 07/12/2007 9:04:44 AM PDT by EdLake
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