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Not unexpected really. Utah may be run in the same manner that the Baptists would like every state to be run, but the fact is, theological difference will hurt Romney, and in general, those primary voters who are going to be subject to alot of coverage of how Utah is run, will also be less likely to vote for him

Not to offend his fans, but America is not ready for this honestly.

1 posted on 06/25/2007 1:00:32 PM PDT by AzaleaCity5691
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Its Thompson or bust. I really hope he has it in him or...nevermind...too horrifying to contemplate.


2 posted on 06/25/2007 1:02:59 PM PDT by samadams2000 (Someone important make......The Call!)
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If Romney personality as a phony politician that people don’t care for. It has nothing to do with his Mormonism. People don’t trust him.


3 posted on 06/25/2007 1:03:46 PM PDT by Always Right
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Any evangelical that allows “Abortion on Demand” democrats to be elected in the next election loses their right to say they are pro-life.


4 posted on 06/25/2007 1:05:32 PM PDT by misterrob
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He doesn’t speak for me. I’m not voting for Romney because I don’t trust a word he says.


5 posted on 06/25/2007 1:06:00 PM PDT by The Ghost of FReepers Past (Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light..... Isaiah 5:20)
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I will not vote for the man, but I’m not voting on his religion, I am voting on (against) HIM and his candidacy for the Presidency. I just don’t believe him. His religion has nothing to do with it.


9 posted on 06/25/2007 1:12:29 PM PDT by BMIC
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Mormon faith is just about the last reason not to vote for ol’ Mitt the flipper.


10 posted on 06/25/2007 1:12:35 PM PDT by newzjunkey
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We are talking about a group of people who think that T-Rex was walking around the holy land at the same time as Jesus. Of course they are not going to vote for someone who says that Joseph Smith stuck his head in a hat and read some gold plates, coming up with a story that contradicts the old and new testaments in hundreds of ways.

Just statin’ the obvious.


12 posted on 06/25/2007 1:13:40 PM PDT by Rodney King (No, we can't all just get along.)
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Any factual discussion of the life of the “Prophet Joseph Smith” will hang Romney’s religious faith in less than an hour. Anyone with any intellectual honesty that is curious about the Mormons can do an easy Google search on Joseph Smith and Brigham Young to figure the truth out.


17 posted on 06/25/2007 1:16:22 PM PDT by xJones
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I could vote for a Mormon. I can’t vote for Mitt. He makes John Kerry look intellectually consistent. Either he was lying about some of his core positions to further his ambition in Mass or he is lying about some of his core positions to further his national ambitions. Either way I don’t trust him.


20 posted on 06/25/2007 1:18:32 PM PDT by SmoothTalker
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Looks like a lot of people on this thread think Hillary, Obama and Edwards have higher principles than Romney. Very interesting.


21 posted on 06/25/2007 1:18:56 PM PDT by Parley Baer
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I’m looking at the list of leading Republican candidates, and Romney is better than all of them possibly except one.

I don’t like Mormon ideology, but I would definitely consider voting for him. I won’t vote for Giuliani, McCain.


23 posted on 06/25/2007 1:20:05 PM PDT by Mount Athos
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I know many evangelicals who are supporting Romney. They are smart enough to understand doing so is not an endorsement of LDS.
28 posted on 06/25/2007 1:28:12 PM PDT by elizabetty (Perpetual Candidate using campaign donations for your salary - Its a good gig if you can get it.)
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If Mormonism is the only “problem” that Mitt has ,then he would be a stellar candidate.

Mitt lacks credibility to me.


29 posted on 06/25/2007 1:29:31 PM PDT by Kuksool
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People keep trying to tell me that I won’t vote for a mormon. I guess thats all they’ve got.

He’s not the most outspokenly conservative of the lot, so my preference is going to be Hunter/Thompson. So if he wants my vote, thats his target. He’s got to be more Hunter than Hunter, and more Thompson than Thompson.

Of course, Hunter was Hunter when being Hunter wasn’t cool. Er, or something like that. So Romney will always have that problem, after running for office in a state where he had to downplay or over-explain or over-nuance his conservative beliefs, to now have to speak boldly or be lost in Thompson’s wake. Or, Hunter, if lightning strikes and he should ever get enough momentum to ever have a wake.

Thats his problem with evangelicals, which is to say, with conservatives in general. But if he overcomes it, and is the nominee, I’d pull the lever for him gladly. I’ll be more glad if its Hunter/Thompson, but if its Romney I’m still there. Next to anyone on the Dem side of the line, Romney is a giant.


31 posted on 06/25/2007 1:32:53 PM PDT by marron
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Apocalyptic president?
34 posted on 06/25/2007 1:39:48 PM PDT by TheDon (The DemocRAT party is the party of TREASON! Overthrow the terrorist's congress!)
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The Baptists get it wrong again. Go figure. Maybe someday they will become “real” Christians...la


38 posted on 06/25/2007 1:54:34 PM PDT by TheSuaveOne
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Well then I guess that we can’t vote for Fred. Church of Christ think that they are the true church.

Then there are the Catholic’s, they think that they are the true church.

McCain thinks that he is God, so he is out.

Huckabee is the only Baptist, so I guess we Baptist) are expected to vote for him.


44 posted on 06/25/2007 2:41:06 PM PDT by Coldwater Creek
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Not necessarily. Romney is running for President, not Preacher. Evangelicals are smart enough to know the difference.


50 posted on 06/25/2007 5:22:00 PM PDT by Clintonfatigued (Open borders and outsourcing are opposite sides of the same coin)
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Before we jump on this, riddle me this:
Is America ready for a Mormon Senate majority leader?
Is America ready for a Mormon chairman of the judiciary committee?
Did you notice that we already have been there?

The theological differences will matter only to that segment of the evangelical community that confuses a vote for President for a vote for pastor. Most evangelicals are thankfully over that paarticular hump and are looking at the more important and fundamental question: Will this candidate share our values and advance the pro-family, pro-freedom, pro-life and pro-national security vision that we as patriotic Americans share?

I am convinced that Christian convictions, while always helpful, are neither necessary nor sufficient for good leadership.

So I close with a final question for the “evagnelicals who won’t vote for Mitt”. ... The race gets down to 2 candidates, one an evangelical Christian the other a Mormon.
You ignore all other considerations because their religious label is a primary decider. Who ho do you vote for,
(a) the evangelical Christian
(b) the Mormon?

If you picked (a), congrats - you just selected Jimmy Carter.


53 posted on 06/25/2007 5:49:16 PM PDT by WOSG (Stop Z-visa amnesty!! Call the Senators, tell them to vote "NO": 202-224-3121, 1-866-340-9281)
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In reading this thread, I am reminded of this joke:

I was walking across a bridge one day, and I saw a man standing on the edge, about to jump off. So I ran over and said "stop! don't do it!"

"Why shouldn't I?" he said.

I said, "Well, there's so much to live for!"

He said, "Like what?"

I said, "Well...are you religious or atheist?"

He said, "Religious."

I said, "Me too! Are you Christian or Buddhist?"

He said, "Christian."

I said, "Me too! Are you Catholic or Protestant?"

He said, "Protestant."

I said, "Me too! Are you Episcopalian or Baptist?"

He said, "Baptist!"

I said, "Wow! Me too! Are you Baptist Church of God or Baptist Church of the Lord?"

He said, "Baptist Church of God!"

I said, "Me too! Are you original Baptist Church of God, or are you Reformed Baptist Church of God?"

He said, "Reformed Baptist Church of God!"

I said, "Me too! Are you Reformed Baptist Church of God, reformation of 1879, or Reformed Baptist Church of God, reformation of 1915?"

He said, "Reformed Baptist Church of God, reformation of 1915!"

I said, "Die, heretic scum", and pushed him off.

-Emo Phillips

59 posted on 06/25/2007 6:39:44 PM PDT by Reaganesque (Romney 2008)
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