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To: Dajjal
You're right about the power the End-Time hadith has on uneducated, young Muslims. Muslims in the ME are fed the line that their "birthright" for lack of a better word - to rule the world has been taken from them by the West and Israel.

At no point do they consider the possibility their culture's backward 14th century ideas are the cause of their problems. Sometimes they'll go as far as to believe it might have something to do with corrupt leaders "stealing" their share of the oil - but that's about as far as introspection gets.

In debate, Japan can be mentioned - a county with NO natural resources. No oil, no iron, no aluminum, no gold, no nothing. Yet, Japan's an economic powerhouse. Then ask, "why?".

But I'm getting off subject... I'm with you on the Mahdi thing - it's going to get bigger as the frustration level rises and it'll become a self-fulfilling prophecy. If the Mahdi did not exist, they would create him.

19 posted on 06/21/2007 7:29:32 AM PDT by GOPJ (What we want to do is stop the Senate amnesty bill in its tracks right now.- Rep.Peter King R-NY)
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To: GOPJ
With the preaching that these are the End Times they also get the convenient rationalization that Islam "lost its birthright" of global dominance because Allah has permitted the rise of the Dajjal -- European exploration, colonization, industrial processing of natural resources, technological innovation, etc. -- just so that in the Last Days the triumph of the Mahdi's jihad could be just so much more glorious as he "brings justice where there had previously been [the Dajjal's] injustice."

That would additionally explain away Japan -- they have allied themselves with the Dajjalic way of doing things economically and politically -- and besides, they were evil non-Islamic Buddhist & Shintoist infidels

How's this for a prophesy -- it's not from the Hadith; it's the Sixth Imam summarizing many of the ahadith:

When you see that truth has died and people of truth have disappeared,
and you see that injustice prevails through the land;
and Scripture has become despised and things are introduced into it that are not in it and it is turned towards men's desires;
and you see the people of error having mastery over the people of truth;
and you see evil out in the open and the doers of evil are not prevented nor do they excuse themselves;
and you see moral depravity openly manifest and men being content with men and women satisfied by woman;
and you see the believer silent, his word not being accepted;
and you see the sinful lying and he is not refuted nor does his deceit redound upon him;
and you see the lowly despising the great;
and you see the wombs cut open;
and you see he who boasts of moral depravity is laughed at and is not spurned;
and you see young men being handed over like women and women cohabiting with women and their numbers increasing;
and you see men spending their wealth on things other than pious deeds and no one opposes or hinders them;
and you see the onlooker turn his back on the efforts of the believer;
and you see one person molesting his neighbor and no one prevents it;
and you see the unbeliever joyful because he does not see gladness in the believer when he sees corruption in the world;
and you see alcoholic drinks being drunk openly...
and you see women occupying places in the assemblies just as men do and usury is carried out openly and adultery is praised...
and you see the forbidden things made legal and the legal things forbidden;
and you see that religion becomes a matter of opinion and Scripture and its laws fall into disuse;
and you see the leaders drawing close to the unbelievers and away from good people;
and you see the leaders corrupt in their rule;...
and you see men eating what their wives have obtained as a result of their immorality and knowing this and persisting in it;...
and you see places of entertainment appearing which no one who passes them forbids them and no one is bold enough to put an end to them;
and you see a worshiper only praying in order that the people may see him;
and you see the experts in religious law devoting themselves to things other than religion, seeking the world and leadership;
and you see the people living together like animals;
and you see the pulpit from which fear of God is enjoined but the speaker does not act in the manner he has enjoined others to act;...
and when you see the tokens of truth that I have taught, then be aware [of the advent of the Mahdi] and seek salvation from God."
-- The Sixth Imam Jafar As-Sadiq (703–765 AD)

20 posted on 06/21/2007 7:43:48 PM PDT by Dajjal
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