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To: GourmetDan
A big part of ID is in the determination and description of complexity, with some specific types of complexity statistically unlikely to be caused by natural processes.

You claim that ID has nothing to do with the supernatural.

OK, given that, let's reword my previous post a tad.

Does ID, in any of its incarnations, admit that natural processes, including but not limited to Evolution, are quite capable of producing the complexity and variety of Earthly organisms?

Does ID suggest that any of the non-supernatural intelligent agents putatively responsible for Earthly life are less complex than Earth life?

246 posted on 06/20/2007 11:52:40 AM PDT by b_sharp (The last door on your right. Jiggle the handle. If they scream ignore it.)
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To: b_sharp
Does ID, in any of its incarnations, admit that natural processes, including but not limited to Evolution, are quite capable of producing the complexity and variety of Earthly organisms?

If by the term --- not limited to Evolution, you are opening the way for some intelligent agent that guided or directed the process, then the answer is YES.

Does ID suggest that any of the non-supernatural intelligent agents putatively responsible for Earthly life are less complex than Earth life?

Here is where we see VARIATIONS and IN-HOUSE DEBATE within proponents of ID. The simple answer is WE DO NOT KNOW AT THIS TIME. The way I understand ID proponents is this --- they argue by everyday observation -- SPECIFIED COMPLEXITY ALWAYS requires intelligent, purposeful agents.

ID as a science is principally interested in DESIGN INFERENCE and DETECTION. It does not purport at this time to describe WHO the designer is.
251 posted on 06/21/2007 10:09:55 AM PDT by SirLinksalot
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To: b_sharp
"You claim that ID has nothing to do with the supernatural."

Not what I said. Please don't misrepresent me by taking quotes out-of-context. You must read my comments in context.

"Does ID, in any of its incarnations, admit that natural processes, including but not limited to Evolution, are quite capable of producing the complexity and variety of Earthly organisms?"

Don't know.

"Does ID suggest that any of the non-supernatural intelligent agents putatively responsible for Earthly life are less complex than Earth life?"

Don't know.

280 posted on 06/25/2007 3:38:09 PM PDT by GourmetDan
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