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It's Not Amnesty, It's a Financial Plan
Vanity | 5/26/07 | Freespirited

Posted on 05/26/2007 10:07:34 AM PDT by freespirited

For the past 10 days, politicians—including the president—have harangued us with assurances that the shamnesty bill is not amnesty. "Amnesty is a pardon with no penalty," they say. Because the bill would impose a monetary penalty, they insist it is not amnesty.

A careful reading of the bill shows that the dollar cost of the fine is far below the value of the benefits that illegals would enjoy after paying it. So one could say that it's not amnesty—it's an investment, and a very good one at that.

Let's assume that the bill has passed in its current form. How does it affect J.M., an illegal alien farm worker who wants to get right with the law?

First, he'll pay an application fee for a Z visa. And a fine of $100 (other aliens will pay $1000, but farm workers get a 90% discount.) He's confused by the enormous complexity of the new law, but no problema. To guide him through the process and deal with any trouble along the way, he has a lawyer from Legal Services Corporation, compliments of the U.S. taxpayer. Contrary to the spin from the White House (see first Myths pronouncement), J.M. becomes eligible for welfare benefits in five years. Unlike most American citizens, for whom employment is at will, J.M.'s employer can only fire him for "just cause." If he someday decides that he was fired without just cause, taxpayers will pay the cost of an arbitrator.

J.M.'s oldest children are now young adults, but were minors when he brought them into the country. Because of this, they are immediately eligible for various forms of higher education assistance. They can get in-state tuition at their state university. (Children of American citizens outside the state cannot.) But they do have to be patient before receiving the biggest prize of all. Three years after the law goes into effect, they will be entitled to green cards (permanent residency) as long as they have not done anything to make them ineligible (such as discriminate against someone based on race or sex), have earned a high school diploma or GED, and have either two years of college or military service.

J.M.'s youngest children were born in the U.S., making them American citizens. If one of their parents should die while they are still minors, they will be able to claim Social Security benefits on the parent's earnings during the years of illegal employment.

This is quite a return on an investment of 100 bucks plus application fee. It could almost put Hillary's cattle futures windfall to shame.


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KEYWORDS: aliens; amnesty; bushkennedy; immigration; s1348
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To: freespirited

Yes it IS amnesty and a financial plan—and a VERY CHEAP ONE AT THAT!!


21 posted on 05/26/2007 11:37:17 AM PDT by stockstrader (We need a conservative candidate who will UNITE the Party, not a liberal one to DIVIDE it!)
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To: indylindy; TommyDale
Don't forget to mention that while the globalists demand the US working class to do with less, they themselves are pocketing zillions in US govt tax dollars---including trillions in war profiteering.

Oops---there goes that black helicopter over my house........again.

Not to worry......I contacted the FBI, CIA, Royal Canadian Mounted Police, Scotland Yard, Interpol and the US Marines--Division of Tactical Sharpshooters.......and I named names.

22 posted on 05/26/2007 11:40:54 AM PDT by Liz (It is dangerous to be right when the government is wrong. Voltaire)
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To: Liz; indylindy

It always comes down to the money.


23 posted on 05/26/2007 11:42:45 AM PDT by TommyDale (More Americans are killed each day in the U.S. by abortion than were killed on 9/11 !)
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To: freespirited

It’s not amnesty, it’s treason via neglect, laziness and stupidity.


24 posted on 05/26/2007 11:46:13 AM PDT by Psycho_Bunny
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To: Liz; TommyDale
An outrage.

Yep. its nauseating. Thats why the Beltway GOP elites want a Rooty as their man.

Tough on security using the children of conservatives, and the people they plan to ram this "profit sharing with the Mexicans plan" down the throats of.

I am not buying any of it. Especially from the people who have sat back and watched, while real Americans do the work and shed the blood, while they collect!

Makes me sick.

25 posted on 05/26/2007 11:46:52 AM PDT by dforest (Fighting the new liberal Conservatism. The Left foot in the GOP door.)
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To: hosepipe
Well, close...at least in a partial way.

I really think that the "visionaries" (always watch out for them in government) have decided that the only way for America to compete with China and the EU (massive populations yielding massive economies) in the future is through a North American Economic Union. They theorize that the U.S. powerhouse economy needs two things in the future -- one of which is greater, cheaper access to natural resources...and Voila! this is what Canada can provide in abundance. The second thing needed is a ready and plentiful source of cheap labor (like what China has internally and Europe is acquiring through the Muslim hordes)...and Voila! this is what Mexico can provide in abundance.

The elites fret and fear that our economic future is jeapordized by anything that creates new barriers to the "planned" North American Economic Union. Border fences and stringent immigration practices are viewed as just the kind of barriers that will slow this process.

Abortion has in part created the need for more labor...but I'm not sure that the cheap labor desire would have been solved by the absence of the terrible practice in America. I think that regardless of the native population in the U.S. or its growth, that desire for the cheap Mexican labor would still be present amongst todays government "visionaries."

Unfortunately, it's the prominence of the "visionaries" that most often dooms societies.

26 posted on 05/26/2007 11:50:59 AM PDT by Scott from the Left Coast
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To: Chuck Dent

AFAIK, US citizens wont have to get ID cards.


27 posted on 05/26/2007 12:09:57 PM PDT by freespirited
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To: freespirited
The title is facetious. It's both amnesty AND a financial plan.

It's the:

No Illegal Immigrant Left Behind Act of 2007

28 posted on 05/26/2007 12:30:26 PM PDT by Loyal Buckeye
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To: freespirited

This is like saying that if a judge gives me a choice of paying a fine or going to jail it’s immoral just to pay the fine because I would be free to have a job to invest and make money. This is a bozo argument if I ever saw one.


29 posted on 05/26/2007 12:56:44 PM PDT by Earthdweller (All reality is based on faith in something.)
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To: freespirited
It's is Amnesty, and It's not a Financial Plan
It's just wrong
30 posted on 05/26/2007 12:58:54 PM PDT by Gone_Postal (Communism works only in Heaven, where they don’t need it, and in Hell, where they’ve already got)
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To: Red_Devil 232
>>If you miss the 6 month dead line you remain an illegal for the rest of your life!<<

Nope, just wait for the next amnesy.


31 posted on 05/26/2007 1:03:34 PM PDT by ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas
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To: Chuck Dent

I think freepers should apply for a z visa with the name of their representative and senators who vote for shamnesty then run against them using their own name.


32 posted on 05/26/2007 1:52:34 PM PDT by blanknoone (When will Europe understand there is no one willing to accept their surrender?)
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To: ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas

Silly me! I forgot about the up coming 2009 amnesty!


33 posted on 05/26/2007 2:06:29 PM PDT by Red_Devil 232 (VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!)
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To: freespirited

“Amnesty is a pardon with no penalty,” they say. Because the bill would impose a monetary penalty, they insist it is not amnesty”

The Z-Card is just handed out free..’Nough said....


34 posted on 05/26/2007 4:06:11 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: Xenophon450

“How does Miklo Perez sound?”

Make that Miguel Perez and you’re in....


35 posted on 05/26/2007 4:07:56 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: freespirited

300 million Americans filing for a Z Visa will blow this “immigration reform” right out of the water. What say ya’ll? Blackbird.


36 posted on 05/27/2007 5:35:55 AM PDT by BlackbirdSST (Just when you think it can't possibly get any worse, another day dawns!)
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To: freespirited
J.M.'s youngest children were born in the U.S., making them American citizens.

This is the whole problem in a nutshell. The misinterpretation of the 14th Amendement to grant citizenship to the offspring of illegal trespassers is the crux of the issue. If you are not legally sanctioned to be here, your offspring are NOT American citizens, but citizens of your country of origin. The son of the Mexican Ambassador to the U.N., born in Mount Sinai Hospital in NYC is not a U.S. citizen. And nor are the millions of illegal "anchor babies" who were born anywhere in this nation. The cowardice of our court system in properly interpreting this Amendement has made it politically impossible to deal with this situation successfully.

37 posted on 05/27/2007 5:57:00 AM PDT by montag813
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