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President Bush Press Conference on Immigration and Iraq- LIVE THREAD
FOX NEWS ^ | 05/26/07

Posted on 05/24/2007 6:44:17 AM PDT by SE Mom

PRESIDENT BUSH TO HOLD PRESS CONFERENCE ON IRAQ WAR-FUNDING AND IMMIGRATIONS BILLS: WATCH LIVE AT 11 A.M. EDT

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TOPICS: Breaking News; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 2008; aliens; amnesty; immigrantlist; immigration
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To: billbears

I’m not listening to Hannity anymore. I can’t stand his unending shilling to Rudy Giuliani. It just goes on and on and on......


481 posted on 05/24/2007 9:03:58 AM PDT by FarRightFanatic ("I'm Barack Hussein Obama...and I approved this taqiyya.")
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Ron Paul is Kooky!

So by default if El Presidente says we should listen to the terrorists he is kooky as well?

482 posted on 05/24/2007 9:04:10 AM PDT by billbears (Those who do not remember the past are condemned to repeat it. --Santayana)
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To: snugs
The voice of insanity. We are being overrun. Do you realize that the population of the US has increased by 53 million people since 1990 and that we will increase another 63 million in the next 23 years or the equivalent of the current population of the UK. Three-quarters of that increase is due to immigration, legal and illegal. Some facts:

---The 35.2 million immigrants (legal and illegal) living in the country in March 2005 is the highest number ever recorded -- two and a half times the 13.5 million during the peak of the last great immigration wave in 1910.

---Between January 2000 and March 2005, 7.9 million new immigrants (legal and illegal) settled in the country, making it the highest five-year period of immigration in American history.

---Immigrants account for 12.1 percent of the total population, the highest percentage in eight decades. If current trends continue, within a decade it will surpass the high of 14.7 percent reached in 1910.

---Of adult immigrants, 31 percent have not completed high school, three-and-a-half times the rate for natives. Since 1990, immigration has increased the number of such workers by 25 percent, while increasing the supply of all other workers by 6 percent.

---The proportion of immigrant-headed households using at least one major welfare program is 29 percent, compared to 18 percent for native households.

---The poverty rate for immigrants and their U.S.-born children (under 18) is 18.4 percent, 57 percent higher than the 11.7 percent for natives and their children. Immigrants and their minor children account for almost one in four persons living in poverty.

---One-third of immigrants lack health insurance -- two-and-one‑half times the rate for natives. Immigrants and their U.S.‑born children account for almost three-fourths (nine million) of the increase in the uninsured population since 1989.

483 posted on 05/24/2007 9:04:12 AM PDT by kabar
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To: dragnet2
Exactly. Super's of multi-million dollar homes have to make "en espanol" SIGNS for the Mexican workers so they KNOW to clean up their burrito trash and 3 hour lunch siesta trash;WITH their godforsaken polka music.They have to now learn Spanish, you are right.

They work cheap and like dogs though but they take long siestas and work until 7PM.

484 posted on 05/24/2007 9:04:51 AM PDT by cajunangel
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To: SE Mom

If it’s going to be amnesty regardless of what everyone wants, then we should ditch the “patriot” act. There’s no need to spy on grandma’s library habits if we’re going to leave the backdoor wide open to anyone that wants to stroll on through.


485 posted on 05/24/2007 9:04:58 AM PDT by mysterio
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To: Lucky9teen
I just don’t understand throwing him under the bus for this issue...

I think you have that completely backwards. Bush is the one trying to throw this country under the bus. And the GOP as well.

In case you missed it, we here in Pennsylvania had a primary this month. The GOP mayor of Hazelton, a town here in PA, was a pioneer in crafting municipal legislation to combat illegal aliens.

He handily won the GOP primary.

And he also won the Dem primary. With write-in votes. Against the former mayor.

Does THAT give you any idea of the sentiment in this country against illegal immigration? Yet Bush wishes to give that kind of political movement the finger. If he were to lead on illegal immigration instead of caving to it, the GOP could well win in 2008. Now it could well be destroyed.

486 posted on 05/24/2007 9:05:16 AM PDT by dirtboy (A store clerk has done more to fight the WOT than Rudy.)
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To: maggief
AZTLAN

This country will eventually bleed for the folly of our "leaders".

Funny that the map shows Aztlan in red.

487 posted on 05/24/2007 9:05:25 AM PDT by AngryJawa ({IDPA, NRA} GO HUNTER '08)
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To: PBRSTREETGANG
Even this shamnesty bill presupposes gaining control of the border. Why won’t they (at least) control the border first? Because there is no intention to ever do so.

Of course there is no intention to control these borders. They've proved that over and over. All we are hearing is lies. This is all about globalism, profits and low wage labor.

We all know this.

What's amazing is these people must know that the majority of Americans are now wise to this. Yet they still lie straight faced.

488 posted on 05/24/2007 9:05:32 AM PDT by dragnet2
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To: SE Mom

We barely have enough money to solve one issue. If you had to choose one, which would you pick?


489 posted on 05/24/2007 9:05:34 AM PDT by BOATSNM8
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To: Plains Drifter
I scraped my Bush/Cheney bumper sticker off and sent it back to him at the White House the day he called the Minutemen vigilantes.

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That word was given almost as much press as Paris Hilton’s activities. Big media wants to separate conservatives from any conservative politician. I realize that supporting President Bush on this thread is fruitless, but I just wanted to add “for the record" my 2 cents.

Isn’t it interesting that one word can erase an entire lifetime of political efforts.
Bush - vigilantes — said once
Allen - macaca — said once
Quayle - potato — misspelled because the teacher handed him a flashcard where the word was misspelled.

490 posted on 05/24/2007 9:05:35 AM PDT by maica (America will be a hyperpower that's all hype and no power -- if we do not prevail in Iraq)
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To: dirtboy

I NEVER thought I’d say this: let ‘em impeach Jorge. I just don’t care anymore.


491 posted on 05/24/2007 9:06:19 AM PDT by snuffy smiff (All skill is in vain when an Angel pisses in the flintlock of yer musket.)
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To: Owen
If there are 12 million illegals in the US and you want to round them all up and deport them, where will you get the funding for this?

Ridiculous straw-man. You don't have to start any new grand program to identify and deport illegals. Just enforce laws that are already in place, using resources that are already in place. When illegals get identified (through routine police activity, for example), ship them back to Mexico. Make conditions for illegals unpleasant enough in the U.S. and some will go back on their own.

492 posted on 05/24/2007 9:06:40 AM PDT by Sloth (The GOP is to DemonRats in politics as Michael Jackson is to Jeffrey Dahmer in babysitting.)
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To: spectre
spectre, do we have hope ?

Is Bush going to succeed in strong- arming all our representatives?

493 posted on 05/24/2007 9:06:49 AM PDT by Guenevere (Duncan Hunter for President, 2008!!)
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To: dirtboy
Not only is he giving his base the finger, his demand for this bill will, in the longer term, futher undermine support for the WOT.

I am guessing this should push Bush poll numbers at least down in the 20's if not high teens. That will create some political drama and intrigue.

494 posted on 05/24/2007 9:07:08 AM PDT by IamConservative (I could never be a liar; there's too much to remember.)
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To: Owen

I’m not out of control- though I was earlier in the week.

To deport or not- isn’t the MAIN point -at least for me. This has been allowed to spiral into such a mess that it’s hard to see any real solution. I would think if they at LEAST built the damn fence- it would provide the citizens with evidence that Congress is willing to enforce laws on the books. As it stands now- there isn’t even the will in Congress to demand enforcement for laws they passed dating back 20 plus years.

As to your cost argument...have you looked at the figures- do you know what THIS bill will COST the AMERICAN taxpayer over time? Billions, literally.


495 posted on 05/24/2007 9:08:15 AM PDT by SE Mom (Proud mom of an Iraq war combat vet -Fred'08)
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To: maica
Bush - vigilantes — said once

I hate to tell you this, but Bush's gross flaws on border security and illegal immigration go far beyond calling the Minutemen vigilantes, as this presser aptly demonstrated.

496 posted on 05/24/2007 9:08:15 AM PDT by dirtboy (A store clerk has done more to fight the WOT than Rudy.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Excellent Press Conference....I thought the President was sincere...and tough

You forgot to add a sarcasm tag.

497 posted on 05/24/2007 9:08:43 AM PDT by Spiff (Rudy Giuliani Quote (NY Post, 1996) "Most of Clinton's policies are very similar to most of mine.")
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To: BOATSNM8
really?

Yeah, really. Securing our borders is a part of the war on terror. Do you recall how 9/11 was accomplished?

The rest of your statement is your own moronic strawman. It doesn't even warrant a response.

498 posted on 05/24/2007 9:08:45 AM PDT by PBRSTREETGANG
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To: caddie
The whole "We can't deport all 12 million of them" argument is the worst straw-man fallacy I have ever heard of.

Mexico did it, surely we can too.

499 posted on 05/24/2007 9:09:00 AM PDT by Poincare
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Yep, the leftwing sniveling press are an embarrassment, as is their party.

Love the way they complain when he talks about the 3000 killed on 9/11, they obviously want that in the black hole of liberal history never to be seen or heard of again. (but with every spring they show black people shouting at the camera in their hurricane news pkgs)

So obvious are these partisan hacks pretending to be journalists, I hope their days are numbered, and we should make it so!!!

500 posted on 05/24/2007 9:09:08 AM PDT by roses of sharon
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