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Illegal immigrants refrain: 'Leaving America is not an option'
AFP ^ | May 20 06:42 PM

Posted on 05/21/2007 9:14:13 AM PDT by stevie_d_64

Francisco Gimenez risked his life to get into United States. He is not planning to leave in a hurry. Like many members of Los Angeles' immigrant community, the 27-year-old butcher is skeptical about proposed legislation intended to offer illegal workers a path to citizenship.

Under reforms announced last week, Gimenez would be required to return to Mexico at some point in order to secure the right to work legally in the United States, possibly paying up to 5,000 dollars in fines additionally.

Gimenez fears however that once he leaves America he won't be allowed back in. "I don't really understand that much about the bill, but I'd have to be crazy to go back to Mexico to apply for visa now that I am already in the US," he says. "They wouldn't give me a visa there."

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Editorial; Extended News; Government
KEYWORDS: aliens; illegalimmigrants; immigrantlist
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To: MarkL; sofaman

Your comments should be directed to the author, sofaman.


81 posted on 05/21/2007 11:08:53 AM PDT by B4Ranch (Never underestimate the power of stupid people in large groups.)
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To: stevie_d_64
Anyone got a Plan B?


82 posted on 05/21/2007 11:10:15 AM PDT by Jim Noble (We don't need to know what Cho thought. We need to know what Librescu thought.)
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To: MarkL

Except it won’t work. Ironically, Mexico is exporting its most able and ambitious workers instead of supplying them with jobs. Mexico is somewhat like Italy was before the First World War.


83 posted on 05/21/2007 11:11:04 AM PDT by RobbyS ( CHIRHO)
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To: P-40

I am sure that $5000 fine will be deductible from any taxes he doesnt pay anyway....


84 posted on 05/21/2007 11:11:51 AM PDT by BurbankKarl
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To: BurbankKarl

Jack up the sales tax and reduce the property tax.


85 posted on 05/21/2007 11:14:07 AM PDT by RobbyS ( CHIRHO)
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To: stevie_d_64
Here’s my plan...let’s call it the “ Easy as A,B,C Plan”:

A. 1 year mandatory minimum prison sentence for anyone who employs an illegal

B. 1 year mandatory minimum prison sentence for anyone who provides government services, including public education, to an illegal (only exception: only live-saving medical assistance in the event of a bona fide emergency)

C. Strip any city or state of all federal funds...of any kind...if they establish themselves as a “sanctuary city” by deed or by written legal act, and strip any religious institution of all federal tax benefits if they act to assist illegal aliens in any way

86 posted on 05/21/2007 11:15:23 AM PDT by RavenATB
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To: ZULU
Now we just have to convince a bunch of prostitutes in Washington and the special interest groups who pay them for their services that the good of America should come before the pleasures of prostitution.

Rush just mentioned this... Why is it that the people who support illegal immigration and amnesty for low cost labor are pretty much the same people who lambast Walmart for their low cost labor?

Mark

87 posted on 05/21/2007 11:15:32 AM PDT by MarkL (Environmental heretics should be burned at the stake, in a "Carbon Neutral" way...)
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To: ZULU
O.K.

Cool! Hey, we've just come up with a "Compromise comprehensive immigration plan!" That wasn't so hard, and you managed to do it in well under 1 page!

Mark

88 posted on 05/21/2007 11:17:59 AM PDT by MarkL (Environmental heretics should be burned at the stake, in a "Carbon Neutral" way...)
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To: ZULU

2a) Announce a six month period during which illegals can sell their property in the US, provided they do so after leaving the country. After this period property owned by illegals in this country is subject to confiscation without reimbursement.

This increases the incentive for the illegals to self-deport.


89 posted on 05/21/2007 11:27:13 AM PDT by 3Lean
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To: kcvl; oh8eleven

That is because Mexico and the other Latin American governments have been preaching socialism, marxism and entitlements to them for 60 years, without the resources to follow through and actually provide benefits. The illegals know this is a rich country and want to get in on the redistribution of wealth that people like Senator Kenney are promising them.


90 posted on 05/21/2007 11:27:32 AM PDT by 3AngelaD (They've screwed up their own countries so bad they had to leave, now they're here screwing up ours.)
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To: MarkL

I guess we are too smart for COngress!!!


91 posted on 05/21/2007 11:27:36 AM PDT by ZULU (Non nobis, non nobis Domine, sed nomini tuo da gloriam. God, guts and guns made America great.)
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To: kcvl
Gimenez echoed: "a Mexican farmer who comes here on a 10-month permit is going to stay here permanently anyway."

In other words, screw your laws!

Book Chip him, Dano!

92 posted on 05/21/2007 11:30:49 AM PDT by ApplegateRanch (Islam: a Satanically Transmitted Disease, spread by unprotected intimate contact with the Koranus.)
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To: stevie_d_64

Now explain to me why paying the fine of $5,000 isnt required first before the amnesty and the get out of jail free card?

Or does that make tooooooo much sense?

Silly me....


93 posted on 05/21/2007 11:34:33 AM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: ZULU
1) Build the wall - completely 2) Put businesses which knowlingly hire illegal invaders out of business, and liquidate their assets to pay for the cost of apprehending detaining an repatriating these people 3) Cut off all Federal Aid to any state or local juridiction which refuses to cooperate with the Feds in removing these people. If that doesn’t work, declare said areas in open rebellion against the authority of the federal government and send in occupying forces 4) Put out of business any organizations which provide “asylum” to illegals and use their liquidted assets to pya for apprenhension, detention and repatriation of these criminals 5) Cut off all social services to illegals 6) Present a bill for services rendered in apprending, detaining and repatriating these criminals to their home governments. If they refuse to pay, take it out of their assets or any humaitarian or military aid we provide to them. Problem solved. No buses, no detention centers, no massive round-ups.

This is the answer. Send this message to all in Congress

94 posted on 05/21/2007 11:39:45 AM PDT by Digger (If RINO is your selection, then failure is your election)
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To: AD from SpringBay

I Agree, I Agree. Make Mexico start paying for its own citizens. And if I hear one more time, we pay taxes too.When! How! Not tax on purchases, I’m talking about income tax, social security. They are round the world paying by using stolen SS #s. Face the auditor like I have to. I don’t believe 75% of them are paying any taxes. Some employers pay cash, no questions asked. That way they don’t have to carry Unemployment Insurance on them. There are all kinds of angles. And have you heard of the one called “rent a family” at income tax time. Your return is legit except you carry a whole unreported family as dependents to collect the EIC. Then you pay the family a fee for their children and others SSNs.


95 posted on 05/21/2007 11:43:09 AM PDT by danyelle
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To: ZULU
Put out of business any organizations which provide “asylum” to illegals

How do you propose putting churches out of business?

96 posted on 05/21/2007 11:43:29 AM PDT by A Ruckus of Dogs
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To: stevie_d_64

“Illegal immigrants refrain: ‘Leaving America is not an option’”

When one prominent Republican suggested a “make ‘em go home, then
return” plan, I was torn between laughing and screaming.
Either that fellow was the silliest and most naive person born...
or a liar that had some sort of “escape clause” such as a trip to
the local consulate of their country would constitute a “trip home”.


97 posted on 05/21/2007 11:43:55 AM PDT by VOA
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To: B4Ranch; sofaman

Yes as an immigrant and naturalized citizen, I can attest to the fact that Sofaman is right...

That’s how we feel ...

I love this country and I volunteered for the US military before I became a citizen...

I wore my uniform proudly at the citizenship ceremony and I cried...I was so happy and awed and grateful that I was now part of the greatest country in the world...


98 posted on 05/21/2007 11:46:52 AM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: A Ruckus of Dogs
How do you propose putting churches out of business?

Take away their tax exempt status.

Mark

99 posted on 05/21/2007 11:53:21 AM PDT by MarkL (Environmental heretics should be burned at the stake, in a "Carbon Neutral" way...)
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To: A Ruckus of Dogs

On an individual basis, i.e. you don’t hit the entire denomination, but you MUST punish renegade priests and ministers and rabbis who use their premises to house these people. And the congregants in those churches should in some way be made to pay for these actions, as well as the clergymen responsible.

Its the only way to stop this nonesense.

The world is full of people who are needy. Obviously we can’t accept them all and equally obviously thier governments should be responsible for dealing with these issues, not the American taxpayers.


100 posted on 05/21/2007 11:55:07 AM PDT by ZULU (Non nobis, non nobis Domine, sed nomini tuo da gloriam. God, guts and guns made America great.)
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