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Dobson: No way I'll vote for Rudy - Might not cast ballot at all if faced with 'Hobson's choice'
WorldNetDaily ^ | May 17, 2008

Posted on 05/17/2007 2:32:49 PM PDT by Jim Robinson

Family advocate James Dobson, widely considered an important GOP rainmaker, says he will not vote for former New York City Mayor Rudy Giuliani under any circumstance in the upcoming presidential elections because of his positions on abortion, domestic partnerships for homosexual couples and other moral issues.

Dobson says today in an exclusive WND column, speaking strictly as a private citizen, "I cannot, and will not, vote for Rudy Giuliani in 2008."

"It is an irrevocable decision," says the founder and chairman of Focus on the Family. "If given a Hobson's – Dobson's? – choice between him and Sens. Hillary Clinton or Barack Obama, I will either cast my ballot for an also-ran – or if worse comes to worst – not vote for the first time in my adult life."

Dobson says, "My conscience and my moral convictions will allow me to do nothing else."

"How could Giuliani say with a straight face that he 'hates abortion,' while also seeking public funding for it?" Dobson asks in his commentary. "How can he hate abortion and contribute to Planned Parenthood in 1993, 1994, 1998 and 1999? And how was he able for many years to defend the horrible procedure by which the brains are sucked from the heads of a viable, late-term, un-anesthetized babies? Those beliefs are philosophically and morally incompatible. What kind of man would even try to reconcile them?"

While Dobson does not endorse candidates in his role with Focus on the Family, he told a talk radio host in January he would not back Arizona Sen. John McCain for the Republican nomination.

"Speaking as a private individual, I would not vote for John McCain under any circumstances," he said.

In March, Dobson drew criticism after a U.S. News and World Report story said Dobson "appeared to throw cold water on a possible presidential bid by former Sen. Fred Thompson while praising former House Speaker Newt Gingrich, who is also weighing a presidential run. …"

Dobson claims the magazine mischaracterized his remarks reported as disparaging of Thompson and the potential presidential candidate's Christian faith.

Reporter Dan Gilgoff quoted Dobson saying of Thompson, "Everyone knows he's conservative and has come out strongly for the things that the pro-family movement stands for, [but] I don't think he's a Christian; at least that's my impression."

A statement by Focus on the Family said Dobson did not mean to disparage Thompson.

"His words weren't intended to represent either an endorsement of former Speaker of the House Newt Gingrich or a disparagement of former Sen. Fred Thompson," the statement said.

"Dr. Dobson appreciates Sen. Thompson's solid, pro-family voting record and his position that Roe v. Wade was wrongly decided."

Dobson, according to Focus on the Family, was "attempting to highlight that to the best of his knowledge, Sen. Thompson hadn't clearly communicated his religious faith, and many evangelical Christians might find this a barrier to supporting him."

Dobson told Gilgoff he had never met Thompson and wasn't certain that his understanding of the former senator's religious convictions was accurate.

"Unfortunately, these qualifiers weren't reported by Mr. Gilgoff," the group's statement said. "We were, however, pleased to learn from his spokesperson that Sen. Thompson professes to be a believer."

Focus on the Family also clarified that Dobson did not excuse Gingrich's "past moral failures," including an affair that ended his second marriage. Gingrich spoke to Dobson of his family life in an interview on the group's daily radio show.


TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: abortion; dobson; editorial; elections; giuliani; mittmcpaul; prolife; stoprudy2008
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To: Brucifer; taxcontrol
Flawed and Rino, yes. But unlike the Beast he is not a Marxist. I don’t think we can imagine the stark raving mad spittle spewing anti-American leftists she would bring into government.

Anyone who wishes to drive a stake into our Constitution and religous traditions will sit out a Rudy v. Mrs. Clinton general election

121 posted on 05/17/2007 4:38:50 PM PDT by Jacquerie (Scotus - Buggering the Constitution since 1937.)
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To: Jacquerie

Sorry, I still don’t buy it.

My SOUL comes before my Country.
I would rather side with God than anyone else.
And being on God’s side is more important than any election.


122 posted on 05/17/2007 4:41:48 PM PDT by taxcontrol
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To: taxcontrol
Enjoy your convictions. You will then also enjoy the pagan Supreme Court justices she will appoint. Her nominees will make Ruth Buzzi Ginsberg look like James Madison.
123 posted on 05/17/2007 5:07:51 PM PDT by Jacquerie (Scotus - Buggering the Constitution since 1937.)
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To: Bluebird Singing

Which “they” are you referring to?

I was disgusted, but I turned out to vote for my “conservative”(HA!)senators. Today they both kicked me in the teeth with an insane immigration bill AND they had their pictures taken while they were kissing up to Ted Kennedy.

That is IT!! NO more!! I will NEVER vote for Giuliani or McCain. McCain because he is a back stabber and insane to boot, and Giuliani because he is an amoral, NAMBLA supporting fascist.


124 posted on 05/17/2007 5:13:43 PM PDT by Politicalmom (Better a Dem with an energized opposition than a liberal "Republican" with no opposition.)
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To: miss marmelstein
Don’t sit there and whine and count up how many times Rudy wore a dress.

Rudy has lots more problems than wearing a dress.

Get out there and fight for your candidate. I know I will.

And your candidate would be Rudy.

125 posted on 05/17/2007 6:51:40 PM PDT by airborne (Duncan Hunter is the only real choice for honest to goodness conservatives!)
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To: Leatherneck_MT
First of all, I didn't deny anything about McCain's position on the border. second, McCain isn't going to get the nomination. Third, whether or not YOU vote for McCain and call him a maggot, REALITY is that John McCain takes CONSERVATIVE positions on major issues about which Hilary Clinton takes left wing positions.

You stated something that was inaccurate, now you are screaming about maggots. That's why I really don't like the angry people who are going to show the world by not casting their precious vote. Talk about megalomania. Like I care that you will only vote for Duncan Hunter. Big deal.

126 posted on 05/17/2007 6:57:21 PM PDT by Williams
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To: taxcontrol

Others will have said it too, but my conscience won’t allow me to sit on my hands and watch Hillary or Obama get elected.


127 posted on 05/17/2007 7:12:57 PM PDT by Mariebl
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To: ilgipper
“Wow. One of the most effective leaders in public service in our generation may be the GOP nominee, and too many on this board are going to jeopardize this country’s and suffer another 8 years of Clinton sleaze and criminal behavior. Even years after out of office, Clintonites like Sandy Berger with zero respect for law and order destroy classified documents by stuffing them in his socks. Yeah, let’s get eight more years of that behavior. That will serve our needs well.

Whether we agree on his social policies or not, he’s with a lot more than the alternatives (Hill and Barack).”


Little difference between Rudy and the Demoncrats.

We RUFUSE to endorse another GOP candidate just because he is a Republican, or claims to be one. Some of us have a conscience and refuse the “lessor of tow evils” NONSENSE. I REFUSE to vote for evil under the banner of a Republican or a Demoncrat. Rudy is NO better than a Demoncrat. He’s PRO ABORTION. PRO homosexual and the ultimate social liberal. I want NOTHING to do with putting him in ANY position of authority. You vote for the three time loser - in that regard he’s like Clinton and did the “conservatives” howl about that. It’s nothing more than partisan hypocrisy - YOU vote for THAT!

128 posted on 05/18/2007 6:32:24 AM PDT by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God) .)
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To: Logical me

“Another one, since this kind of thinking put the RATS in control of the Senate and House, guess we will not be able to count on you.”

BULL!

YOU keep these people in there under the banner of “Republican”. Rudy is NO better than a social LIBERAL Demoncrat. YOU keep these disgusting people in office with childish scare tactics. No more of that for me. I’m fed up with Republicans parading around when they are really Demoncrats.


129 posted on 05/18/2007 6:35:00 AM PDT by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God) .)
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To: Logical me

“Another one, since this kind of thinking put the RATS in control of the Senate and House, guess we will not be able to count on you.”

BULL!

YOU keep these people in there under the banner of “Republican”. Rudy is NO better than a social LIBERAL Demoncrat. YOU keep these disgusting people in office with childish scare tactics. No more of that for me. I’m fed up with Republicans parading around when they are really Demoncrats.


130 posted on 05/18/2007 6:35:11 AM PDT by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God) .)
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To: Jacquerie
For nmh, taxcontrol,Brucifer, MamaB it is evident you suffer from:
RDS - Rudy Derangement Syndrome, the mirror opposite of leftist/CSPAN Bush Derangement Syndrome. RDS is a childlike disease that does not think life should ever present unpleasant choices. Symptoms include an inability to consider voting for Rudy if his general election opponent is the Marxist Hildebeast.


Rudy is no better than Hildebeast.

It is you idiotic “thinking” that keeps DEMONCRATS in office. Rudy is NO Republican. He’s a Demoncrat in drag.

THINK MORE of YOURSELF and DEMAND a true REPUBLICAN candidate for a change. Evil is evil so the silly, “lessor that the evils” stuff doesn’t cut it with me. By voting for Rudy you ensure that the country will go down hill faster.

131 posted on 05/18/2007 6:38:00 AM PDT by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God) .)
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To: Perdogg
I cannot believe that you guys would put this country at risk by staying home.

If there is a God in heaven, we would be wise to fear Him more than the Democrats.

132 posted on 05/18/2007 6:38:15 AM PDT by TomSmedley (Calvinist, optimist, home schooling dad, exuberant husband, technical writer)
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To: Perdogg
“I would be more than happy to support Fred, but Fred is going to have to get off his butt and run.”

I believe he will run. Already he’s dropped out of his T.V. series.

“I will support any Republican, with the exception of Ron Paul, over any Democrat. I think even Fred would agree to that.”

I won’t. I DEMAND a decent Republican candidate. I can’t settle for these Demoncrats in drag pretending to be Republicans. Like Arnold, we’d have more of THAT kind of leadership. The U.S. can’t afford to have a LIBERAL in office. Rudy is a mess. It shows in his personal life - a THREE time loser - supports homosexuals, supports abortion and LOVES social programs - little difference between him and any Demoncrat. Rudy will NEVER get my vote for anything - I have higher standards and refuse to vote for a Demoncrat at heart - which Rudy is.

133 posted on 05/18/2007 6:41:41 AM PDT by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God) .)
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To: nmh

I agree. But look what has happen since all of those borders republicans stayed home in November. The House held the line, but now we don’t have the House, so I hope all of those people are now happy with the Ma Pelosi Immigration bill.


134 posted on 05/18/2007 6:49:18 AM PDT by Perdogg (Cheney-Bolton 2008)
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To: Perdogg

“I agree. But look what has happen since all of those borders republicans stayed home in November. The House held the line, but now we don’t have the House, so I hope all of those people are now happy with the Ma Pelosi Immigration bill.”

That is just another reason WHY we can’t vote for Rudy like people. Rudy is ALL FOR ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS! He SUPPORTS this ILLEGAL immigration stuff. Truly Rudy is really a DEMONCRAT running as a Republican.


135 posted on 05/18/2007 7:00:33 AM PDT by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God) .)
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To: nmh

Enjoy your convictions. You will then also enjoy the pagans the Beast will appoint to the Supreme Court. Her nominees will make Ruth Buzzi Ginsberg look like James Madison.


136 posted on 05/18/2007 8:19:36 AM PDT by Jacquerie (Scotus - Buggering the Constitution since 1937.)
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To: Jacquerie
“Enjoy your convictions. You will then also enjoy the pagans the Beast will appoint to the Supreme Court. Her nominees will make Ruth Buzzi Ginsberg look like James Madison.”

I have principles. Apparently you don’t.

There is little difference between LIEBRAL Rudy and Hildebeast. I will not bow down to your godless candidates. I will sleep soundly at night and be at peace knowing I have not contributed through the vote for the U.S. to decline any further - culturally, morally or otherwise.

Pat yourself on the back for more moral and cultural decline when voting for LIBERAL, godless Rudy. He’ll just take this country to hell at a slightly, ever so slightly slower pace.

137 posted on 05/18/2007 10:43:55 AM PDT by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God) .)
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