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Pro-choice Giuliani called acceptable (by Boehner, Tancredo, Brownback)
Washington Times ^ | 5/7/07 | Eric Pfeiffer

Posted on 05/07/2007 8:34:04 PM PDT by NormsRevenge

Two leading Republican lawmakers said yesterday that former New York Mayor Rudolph W. Giuliani's pro-choice stance on abortion should not disqualify him from becoming their party's presidential nominee or from receiving the support of conservative voters.

Making the comments were House Majority Leader John A. Boehner of Ohio and Rep. Tom Tancredo of Colorado, one of Mr. Giuliani's rivals for the nomination. Sen. Sam Brownback of Kansas, a social conservative also running for the party's nomination, said during the Republican presidential debate last week that he could accept a candidate with differing views on abortion.

"I think it's an uphill fight on that issue," Mr. Boehner said during an appearance on "Fox News Sunday." "But I think a lot of Republican voters see Rudy Giuliani as competent and able to do the job."

Mr. Boehner has not endorsed the Giuliani campaign. He noted the large delegation of House Republicans who met with former Sen. Fred Thompson of Tennessee two weeks ago and said voters are open to a range of primary candidates.

Mr. Giuliani said during the debate that it would be "OK" if Roe v. Wade were either overturned or upheld, giving no clear approval to reversing the 1973 decision that established abortion as a constitutional right. His nine rivals on the stage strongly approved of overturning Roe.

"It would be OK to repeal it," Mr. Giuliani said. "It would be OK also if a strict constructionist viewed it as precedent."

(Excerpt) Read more at washtimes.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Government; Politics/Elections; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: acceptable; boehner; brownback; elections; giuliani; proabortion; prochoice; prolife; tancredo
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1 posted on 05/07/2007 8:34:07 PM PDT by NormsRevenge
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To: NormsRevenge

Rudy would be “acceptable” (with nose held) running against Hillary, Obama or the Shyster Edwards.

Hope it doesn’t come down to that choice.


2 posted on 05/07/2007 8:38:39 PM PDT by Nervous Tick
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To: NormsRevenge

Rudy would bring in the independents, the moderates, and the disaffected democrats.

That is the only way the reps are going to win a very tough election in 2008.


3 posted on 05/07/2007 8:40:20 PM PDT by tkathy (Those who appease always get more killed than those who stand up to barbarism)
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To: NormsRevenge
Pro-choice Giuliani called acceptable (by Boehner, Tancredo, Brownback)

Speak up, Tancredo-bots. Speak up!!!

4 posted on 05/07/2007 8:40:29 PM PDT by El Conservador ("The world needs to be reminded that all human ills are not curable by legislation" - Warren Harding)
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To: tkathy

Rudy would bring in the independents, the moderates, and the disaffected democrats.


The question is ,, Will it be enough to compensate for those in the base who aren’t brought along?


5 posted on 05/07/2007 8:42:19 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... In FReeP We Trust ...)
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To: NormsRevenge

Maybe so.

But his record of complete contempt for the Constitution makes him unacceptable in the extreme.


6 posted on 05/07/2007 8:42:20 PM PDT by ellery (I don't remember a constitutional amendment that gives you the right not to be identified-R.Giuliani)
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To: tkathy

Ironic tagline.


7 posted on 05/07/2007 8:43:41 PM PDT by WhistlingPastTheGraveyard
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To: El Conservador

Tancredo, you traitor!


8 posted on 05/07/2007 8:45:31 PM PDT by neverhillorat (HILLORAT WINS, WE ALL LOSE)
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To: tkathy
Rudy would bring in the independents, the moderates, and the disaffected democrats.

I don't think he would, once the MSM hits its stride during the general election. But let's assume this is true -- how does he bring in enough independents, moderates and disaffected democrats to make up for several major GOP constituencies who are certain to go third party or stay home? A winning GOP candidate has to turn out all segments of the GOP plus some independents/disaffected dems.

9 posted on 05/07/2007 8:47:12 PM PDT by ellery (I don't remember a constitutional amendment that gives you the right not to be identified-R.Giuliani)
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To: tkathy

Nope. The ONLY way is to embrace Reaganism. Why do you think Rudy is trying to do that and swerve right? It’s because he cannot run as a liberal mayor.


10 posted on 05/07/2007 8:47:13 PM PDT by pissant
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To: neverhillorat

Well, he was going nowhere fast anyhow.


11 posted on 05/07/2007 8:49:35 PM PDT by pissant
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To: NormsRevenge
This is a bit misleading, at least with regard to Tancredo, who simply suggested that voters may well decide to go with a pro-abort if forced to by the alternative.
12 posted on 05/07/2007 8:49:43 PM PDT by B Knotts
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To: NormsRevenge

No. And it’s not just abortion. Giuliani is in bed with George Soros, Hillary Clinton and the socialist caucus when it comes to abortion, partial birth abortion, federally funded abortion, gay rights, gay marriage, hate crimes, thought crimes, gun control, illegal aliens, etc. When he allies himself with and supports these socialist movements, he’s aiding and abetting the enemy. Don’t know why this is not immediately obvious to all.


13 posted on 05/07/2007 8:53:11 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (Our God-given unalienable rights are not open to debate, negotiation or compromise!)
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To: ellery

I think he’d be very solid on terrorism, but if the U.S. as a whole, is more conservative than CA, why should we settle for a nominee that’s probably more liberal than CA’s RINO governor


14 posted on 05/07/2007 8:59:05 PM PDT by Anti-MSM
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To: NormsRevenge

Rudy Giuliani is spent. He was never worth the energy and money wasted on his campaign. He is the Dems choice for the Republican Party.

Republican Party Leadership is genuinely lacking, and has been for awhile. Conservatives need to shake them up a bit.

NO RUDY.


15 posted on 05/07/2007 8:59:06 PM PDT by rockinqsranch (Dems, Libs, Socialists...call 'em what you will...They ALL have fairies livin' in their trees.)
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To: B Knotts

...Tancredo ... other factors could make a pro-choice candidate acceptable to conservatives.

“...Republicans start looking at alternatives and saying, ‘Oh my gosh, even if Mayor Giuliani is a pro-choice, or at least a flip-flop candidate on this issue, maybe he will appoint strict constructionists and that sort of thing,” ... “And God knows we don’t want the alternative, being whoever the Democrats have in place.”


He couched it fairly well, altho ‘it’ will effectively destroy the party if the party platform and its planks are further allowed to rot away slowly and progressively.


16 posted on 05/07/2007 9:01:43 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... In FReeP We Trust ...)
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To: pissant

Reagan was a big tent tolerant republican. There was very little of the social issues when he ran, as I remember.


17 posted on 05/07/2007 9:03:15 PM PDT by tkathy (Those who appease always get more killed than those who stand up to barbarism)
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To: Nervous Tick; All

“Rudy would be “acceptable” (with nose held) running against Hillary, Obama or the Shyster Edwards.

Hope it doesn’t come down to that choice.”

NO, NO, A THOUSAND TIMES, NO!!! Folks, this is what the MSM, the defeatocrats, NARAL, NOW, ACLU, al Quaida, Int’l ANSWER, CP-USA, George Soros, Michael Moore, Cindy Sheehan and Taliban want you to do!! If Hillary, Obama or Edwards are the dem nominee and Rudy is the GOP candidate, how can the above lose? Either way, it’s “abortion on demand”, gun confiscation, further Islamization of America, millions more illegals, socialized medicine, higher taxes, and a thousand other wrong-headed laws and policies that we can ill afford!


Fred Thompson/John Bolton 2008


18 posted on 05/07/2007 9:11:45 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (Nancy Pelosi: The Babbling Bolshevik Babushka from the City by the Bay.)
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To: tkathy

Rubbish. It was Reagan who brought the socons into the that tent with his stances on the issues. Many were Democrats, such as Bill Bennett. No pandering to homos, no pandering to abortionists, no padering to feminists, no pandering to gun control advocates, no pandering to atheists. Wanted prayer returned to the classroom, as a matter of fact.


19 posted on 05/07/2007 9:11:56 PM PDT by pissant
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To: NormsRevenge
I’m pro-choice. I’m pro-gay rights, Giuliani said. He was then asked whether he supports a ban on what critics call partial-birth abortions. “No, I have not supported that, and I don’t see my position on that changing,” he responded. Source: CNN.com, “Inside Politics” Dec 2, 1999 http://www.ontheissues.org/2008/Rudy_Giuliani_Abortion.htm

ANDERSON COOPER 360 DEGREES (November 14, 2006)

RUDY GIULIANI (R), FORMER MAYOR OF NEW YORK CITY: I'm pro- choice. I'm pro-gay rights.

KING: Giuliani supports a woman's right to an abortion, and back in 1999, he opposed a federal ban on late-term abortions.

GIULIANI: No, I have not supported that, and I don't see my position on that changing.

KING: Immigration could be another presidential landmine. Back in 1996, Mayor Giuliani went to federal court to challenge new federal laws requiring the city to inform the federal government about illegal immigrants.

JEFFREY: He took the side of illegal immigrants in New York City against the Republican Congress.

KING: Giuliani opposes same-sex marriage but as mayor, he supported civil unions and extending health and other benefits to gay couples. He also supported the assault weapons ban and other gun control measures opposed by the National Rifle Association.

GIULIANI: I'm in favor of gun control. I'm pro-choice.

Republican Big-Wigs Support Pro-Abortion Event in NY

Pro-abortion Governor George Pataki and New York Mayor Rudy Giuliani, who also supports unrestricted abortion, are co-chairs of the 2000 Choice Award Presentation to be held on May 30 at the St. Regis Hotel in New York City. The event is sponsored by the Republican Pro-Choice Coalition, a group that is campaigning for the removal of the pro-life plank from the Republican National Platform.


http://www.nationalreview.com/murdock/murdock200503010743.asp


20 posted on 05/07/2007 9:14:16 PM PDT by narses ("Freedom is about authority." - Rudolph Giuliani)
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