[sodpoodle]

“””she’s ...what ? maybe 12 years old? She fine for her age. She’s not the jerk in this... her father is... she’s the victim.”””

Oh FGS - of course she is the victim. My observation is that she is very skinny and could already be suffering as a result of her hellish family life.

There - I have spelled it out for you - sorry it was obtuse.

[bedolido]

sorry I misunderstood your posting.

I have 9 grand-kids. 4 of which are females. two of them are similar in build to this poor child.

[LWalk18]

She's looks O.K. to me- keep in mind that she may be going through a growth spurt. She is no doubt affected by this case. Baldwin clearly crossed a boundary in his call to her. However, calls to revoke his parental rights based on a phone message seem premature and would set a terrible precedent, IMO. I do think that a break in visitation, followed by a gradual restoration under the condition of his successful completion of anger management therapy and no more incidents is appropriate.

BTW, I don't believe that Kim has been a saint in all this. Releasing the tapes to the public in clear violation of a court order is inappropriate, IMO.