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Va. Tech Gunman Named [Murderer Identified]
The Washington Post ^

Posted on 04/17/2007 6:39:31 AM PDT by starlifter

Va. Tech Gunman Named

By Michael Shear and Debbi Wilgoren Washington Post Staff Writers Tuesday, April 17, 2007; 9:36 AM

Virginia Tech officials today identified the Virginia Tech student who killed 32 people and then himself on the Blacksburg campus yesterday as 23-year-old Cho Seung-Hui of Centreville.

Cho was a South Korean native who had immigrated to this country, the university announced on its Web site this morning. He was a senior majoring in English, and lived in a dorm on campus, officials said.

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TOPICS: Breaking News; US: Virginia
KEYWORDS: vatech; vtech; vtmuders
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To: RDTF
Any particular comments that stick out?

There are around 200 in total, so which ones make your point? Or is it the article?

401 posted on 04/17/2007 6:38:51 PM PDT by Jedi Master Pikachu ( What is your take on Acts 15:20 (abstaining from blood) about eating meat? Could you freepmail?)
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To: Jedi Master Pikachu; admin

I don’t know why you pinged me to this thread, but please don’t. Is it not obvious who the thread was originally about? Of course it is. Bait someone else. It looks like there are still troublemakers here posting loads of fun for the morons at the DU to quote. This thread should have been deleted long ago. At least many the comments I was referring to were deleted.


402 posted on 04/17/2007 6:44:28 PM PDT by RDTF
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To: Jedi Master Pikachu; admin

Apologies Admin, this is not the thread I was referring to.


403 posted on 04/17/2007 6:46:09 PM PDT by RDTF
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To: Jedi Master Pikachu

Every other person that replied to that post
saw it for what was. A JOKE.
Why can’t you?


404 posted on 04/17/2007 6:47:11 PM PDT by WKB (It's hard to tell who's more afraid of Fred Thompson; The Dims or the rudibots.)
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To: Jedi Master Pikachu
And see I left the word “it” out the last post.
Because I got in a hurry which is what my post
46 was about. People making mistakes because they
get in a hurry.
405 posted on 04/17/2007 6:49:37 PM PDT by WKB (It's hard to tell who's more afraid of Fred Thompson; The Dims or the rudibots.)
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To: RDTF; Vision
Whoa there, pal.

You've already gotten some comments on the other thread, but at the time the post on this thread was written, for which your response was a reply had not gotten to Vision's posts yet. All there was was a question for which posts you were referring to (obviously Vision's).

406 posted on 04/17/2007 7:24:51 PM PDT by Jedi Master Pikachu ( What is your take on Acts 15:20 (abstaining from blood) about eating meat? Could you freepmail?)
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To: WKB

JUST POINTING OUT that your post could have been an actual statment.


407 posted on 04/17/2007 7:25:38 PM PDT by Jedi Master Pikachu ( What is your take on Acts 15:20 (abstaining from blood) about eating meat? Could you freepmail?)
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To: Jedi Master Pikachu

JUST POINTING OUT that your post could have been an actual statment.

See post #393


408 posted on 04/17/2007 7:27:09 PM PDT by WKB (It's hard to tell who's more afraid of Fred Thompson; The Dims or the rudibots.)
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To: Jedi Master Pikachu

pal? Lots of class you have, do you call your sister or other females pal?
You have been on a roll all night. Give it a rest.


409 posted on 04/17/2007 7:27:35 PM PDT by RDTF
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To: Knitting A Conundrum

Isn’t Ishmael the progenitor of what would eventually become the Muslim world?


410 posted on 04/17/2007 7:41:55 PM PDT by P.O.E.
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To: P.O.E.

He was also the son of Hagar, Sarah’s handmaid. In the book of Genesis, Hagar was sent away with the young Ishmael, and almost died from lack of water, when it was revealed to her by an angel.

It’s got lots of levels of meaning that could be built up.

In the Islamic story, it was Ishmael who was set to be offered up, but God wouldn’t let the knife cut him.

Ishmael is rejected. Or, Ishmael is the true favored son. (counting on your POV)

Ishmael in Moby Dick is the last survivor.

There is also a sect of Shia Islam that are called the Ismailis, because of a dispute about the succession of who should be Imam. Ismail was the son of the 6th Imam, who died before his father (or was sent into hiding and declared dead to protect him). I read something about the Assassin sect during the crusades being Ismailis. The Druzes trace back to this as well from what I understand.

There was Ismail Pasha, involved with the Suez Canal and the moving Egypt into modernization in the 1800s.

There was the Shah Ismail, around 1500 in Iran.

A couple of interesting Wiki disambiguation pages

For Ishmael:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ishmael_%28disambiguation%29

For Ismail

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ismail_%28name%29


411 posted on 04/17/2007 8:05:59 PM PDT by Knitting A Conundrum (Act Justly, Love Mercy, and Walk Humbly With God Micah 6:8)
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To: Knitting A Conundrum
There seems to be considerable speculation in this regard, such as here.
412 posted on 04/17/2007 8:18:59 PM PDT by P.O.E.
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To: P.O.E.

Lots of speculation.

I speculate he preferred playing a middle eastern character on Battlefield 2.

Occam’s razor, and all that.


413 posted on 04/17/2007 8:45:01 PM PDT by Knitting A Conundrum (Act Justly, Love Mercy, and Walk Humbly With God Micah 6:8)
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To: RDTF
Read comment 401 again.

Obviously, you still don't realize that the question posed, was simply a question. You didn't give any particular posts, just a link to the entire article which had around 285 posts in total. The question was asking which ones in particular you were referring to. The question was rather straightforward.

414 posted on 04/17/2007 11:53:37 PM PDT by Jedi Master Pikachu ( What is your take on Acts 15:20 (abstaining from blood) about eating meat? Could you freepmail?)
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To: Gauss

At least one of those killed was another of East Asian descent (Chinese), though he could have selected non-Koreans.


415 posted on 04/18/2007 12:02:25 AM PDT by Jedi Master Pikachu ( What is your take on Acts 15:20 (abstaining from blood) about eating meat? Could you freepmail?)
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To: Gauss
You've probably seen the on-site video that captures the sound of his gunshots. They were so rapid that it doesn't seem that he "selected" anyone. Surviving students describe Cho as simply entering classrooms and firing, or forcing eveyone to stand up and then shooting them in the head. There is a lot of speculation about what might be the shooter's motives, but there is one obvious explanation that hasn't been discussed: he was a paranoid schizophrenic. Certainly, all the descriptions of the man fit the bill, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schizophrenia#Criteria_.28signs_and_symptoms.29

And he was on the right age - early to mid-20s. Since the note left behind hasn't been released in full, there is no way to tell if he discusses delusional beliefs, but it does seem that he had elaborate beliefs about being persecuted by certain groups.

There may end up being no further explanation than that he was a young man with a major illness who should have been prescribed medication or institutionalized long ago.

The person who really deserves our attention is Liviu Lebrescu, the 76-year-old Holocaust survivor and Engineering professor who threw himself in front of the shooter,yelling for his students to get out of the room. He managed to hold the gunman at bay, although he was shot five to six times, being killed. All the students survived, getting out the windows of the second-floor classroom, due to the Professor's sacrifice.

416 posted on 04/18/2007 6:06:20 AM PDT by worst-case scenario (Striving to reach the light)
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To: Knitting A Conundrum

No No NO...you guys have it all wrong about the “Ismail Ax” thing...he actually wrote “1 small Ax” as a reminder to buy an axe for the killings, but apparently he couldn’t find one in time, so he just used the guns. ;-)

Seriously, though...did you guys read his scripts over at Smoking Gun? I think this guy was molested as a child. It would explain a lot.

Thoughts???


417 posted on 04/18/2007 9:40:47 AM PDT by TampaDude (If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the PROBLEM!!!)
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To: starlifter

This unsubstantiated! Repeat: Unsubstantiated!

According to a Korean friend, Korean American papers are reporting that Cho’s parents have committed . Do we have anyone in the Korean community here who can confirm this rumor? My heart goes out to them regardless.


418 posted on 04/18/2007 10:11:46 AM PDT by pa mom (God bless Tech--and I'm a Wahoo!)
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To: starlifter
I am wondering if killer had a myspace.com account ?
If so(?), anybody check into this, yet ?
419 posted on 04/18/2007 10:42:39 AM PDT by Orlando
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To: Orlando

“Ismail Ax”, maybe ?


420 posted on 04/18/2007 10:44:20 AM PDT by Orlando
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