[Sub-Driver]

valid. I'd agree........

[xcamel]

...and not one coulter/edwards/poofer comment either...

[TommyDale]

I think this has been quite evident here for the past few months! LOL!

[oceanview]

oh sure, let's dump the GOP - and go into the political wilderness for the next 40 years. there's a real solid plan.

[Condor 63]

"The Republican Party apparently has a death wish, but that doesn't mean we conservatives have to go along with it," Richard Viguerie, a movement veteran who helped elect Reagan, said during his wildly-received speech delivered Thursday. "Let's focus on the conservative movement, not the GOP."

Please?

[McGavin999]

We've got to be a third force," said Bill Greene, head of RightMarch.com, an online activist network.

Is that like Clinton and Blair's The Third Way?

[Popman]

"You can't make a contract with America and break it," Wayne LaPierre, executive vice-president of the National Rifle Association, said of the 1994 congressional class that helped usher in the "Contract with America," which pledged limited government, fiscal and social conservative reforms.

[HitmanLV]

America's conservatives are mad and they're not going to take it anymore.

What else is new?

[navyguy]

I don't pretend to know the solution, but I'm still waiting for the GOP to pull out the knife they stuck in my back.

I think the main problem is that the GOP leadership is utterly, completely and totally out of touch with its base. COMPLETELY. Furthermore, they show no interest whatsoever in listening to us. Its like talking to a cadaver. I never get a response to anything I ask.

I don't know that abandoning the GOP is the answer, but I am witholding $$$ donations and screaming in faces until I detect a heartbeat inside Washington DC.

[gc4nra]

It's what I tell them everytime they call for money!

Some kid called from Wisconsin the other day on behalf of the California Republican PArty to tell me how great it was we reelected Arnold.


What a CROCK!

[truth_seeker]

"The Republican Party apparently has a death wish, but that doesn't mean we conservatives have to go along with it," Richard Viguerie, a movement veteran who helped elect Reagan"

Reagan made Viguerie. Viguerie didn't make Reagan.

But to hear these arrogant people squawk, you'd never know the truth.

Without Reagan, most would be nobodies. Talk of 3rd parties confirms the idiocy underlying many of their rantings.

[DTogo]

Hence, my tagline...

[LS]

Well, it's true in a sense, but I think still off-base. Let me back up by saying that earlier in the week there were a couple of pro-Rudy columns by conservatives (John Podhorez, Emmitt Tyrrell) in which essentially they argued that the reason Rudy is so popular so far is that while he doesn't fight for EVERY conservative cause (and doesn't even embrace some), those that he does support he FIGHTS for. Further, he crushes and defeats his enemies, whether it was organized crime of the civil-rights blacks coming against the NY Police.

Now, I don't want to turn this into a Rudy vs. whoever thread: my point is, I think the authors are right that conservatives want someone who will seek to utterly defeat our enemies, not have a "new tone" or get along with them.

This is what I sensed at C-PAC---that conservatives/Republicans were desperate for someone who would actually fight, not "get along." Mitt Romney got some of his biggest applause when he talked about not only vetoing spending bills from the Dems, but also Republicans.

My sense at the convention was that this desire to fight on SOME ISSUES---ANY ISSUES---and win trumped what, specifically, those issues might be.

[trooprally]

We better get working on the Primaries, because once they are over, we only have ourselves to blame for who we have running in the General elections.

I get tired of people complaining about who is running in the General election. By the time the General Election comes about, the RINOs are better than the Rats any day.

[Mr] T

[hosepipe]

Bush has fractured the republican party and called into question what a conservative "IS".. because of immigration and spending..

Was it on purpose or thru stupidity?.. because it did happen..
RINOs question that it even happened.. here on FR we know that it did happen..
The republican party is fractured.. just in time for Hitlery..
Occams Razor says it was On PURPOSE... few things happen by accident in the White House..

[tkathy]

Instead of whining, blaming others for conservatives self created problems, and trying to destroy the republican party, why not come up with a compelling message and compelling leaders?

[justshutupandtakeit]

Let's commit national suicide by attacking the GOP and empowering the Party of Treason. Brilliant simply brilliant. And these clowns wonder why their influence is declining.

[capitalist229]

Let's neutralize the extremists and get back to what matters to muddle class Republicans.

National security and lower taxes.

BUMP

[Coleus]

is there a conservative running for president?