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To: blasater1960

Isaiah 9

6 For to us a child is born,
to us a son is given,
and the government will be on his shoulders.
And he will be called
Wonderful Counselor, [b] Mighty God,
Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace.

Daniel 7

13 "In my vision at night I looked, and there before me was one like a son of man, coming with the clouds of heaven. He approached the Ancient of Days and was led into his presence. 14 He was given authority, glory and sovereign power; all peoples, nations and men of every language worshiped him. His dominion is an everlasting dominion that will not pass away, and his kingdom is one that will never be destroyed.

Isaiah 63:8-10

He said, "Surely they are my people, sons who will not be false to me"; and so he became their Savior. In all their distress he too was distressed, and the angel of his presence saved them. In his love and mercy he redeemed them; he lifted them up and carried them all the days of old. Yet they rebelled and grieved his Holy Spirit. So he turned and became their enemy and he himself fought against them.


116 posted on 03/02/2007 11:55:40 AM PST by Raycpa
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To: Raycpa
Again, this is an example of a mistranslation of the Hebrew.

Isaiah 9: should read

For a child has been born to us, a son given to us, and the authority is upon his shoulder, and the wondrous adviser, the mighty God, the everlasting Father, called his name, "the prince of peace."

This is G-d talking about King Hezekiah.

The other two are too week to even derive meaningful theology from in my opinion. One of the rules for proper exegesis being that week and obscure passages dont dominate the strong and clear. Sorry, when you correctly translate the Hebrew, Jesus is not there in the Tanach. Only by forcing him there by isogesis.

124 posted on 03/02/2007 12:56:48 PM PST by blasater1960 ( Ishmaelites...Still a wild-ass of a people....)
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