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Michael Barone's take on the polls.
1 posted on 02/24/2007 10:59:08 AM PST by Blackirish
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To: areafiftyone; PhiKapMom
Michael Barone; one of the best guys in the business says this:

National upshot: Rudy's electoral vote position against Hillary is much stronger than Bush's against Kerry. Rudy puts almost the whole East into play and is significantly stronger in several target states in the Midwest and West. Hillary puts some states into play in the South but with many fewer electoral votes than Rudy does elsewhere. Even if you assume that Hillary is stronger against Rudy today than she was in July, the pairing does place the Republicans in a stronger position than Bush was in '04

2 posted on 02/24/2007 11:01:57 AM PST by Peach (The Clintons' pardoned more terrorists than they ever captured or killed.)
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To: Victoria Delsoul

PING


3 posted on 02/24/2007 11:02:46 AM PST by HitmanLV ("If at first you don't succeed, keep on sucking until you do suck seed." - Jerry 'Curly' Howard)
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To: Blackirish

Let's get through the primaries before we play this scenario.


4 posted on 02/24/2007 11:04:06 AM PST by Fierce Allegiance (I love pissing off liberals, both democrat and republican.)
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To: Blackirish

Here we go again............:)


5 posted on 02/24/2007 11:05:24 AM PST by alice_in_bubbaland (As for me, I will remain neutral...for the time being.)
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To: Blackirish

Cottage cheese vs. the old salami stick.


6 posted on 02/24/2007 11:07:47 AM PST by jetson
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I think you Rudybots should propose that the GOP nominate Hillary Clinton as their 2008 candidate. You will then have achieved your goal of getting behind a winning candidate. Which is, as you ENDLESSLY and TEDIOUSLY remind us, the only thing that could possibly matter.


7 posted on 02/24/2007 11:09:41 AM PST by madprof98 ("moritur et ridet" - salvianus)
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To: Blackirish
From the article...

First, there's a huge difference between men and women in almost every state. Hillary carried men only in California (48 to 45 percent), which has 55 electoral votes. Rudy carries women in Alabama, Alaska, Arizona, Colorado, Georgia, Idaho, Indiana, Kansas, Kentucky, Montana, Nebraska, Nevada, New Hampshire, New Jersey, North Carolina, North Dakota, Oklahoma, Oregon, Pennsylvania, South Dakota, Tennessee, Utah, Virginia, and Wyoming: 194 electoral votes. That's a huge advantage for Giuliani, though if we assume his lead over Clinton is not as great today as it was last July, not as huge as the contrast between 194 and 55 suggests.

Golly, let's chat. Let's have a conversation. I guess the gals out there aren't digging the coffee klatsch?
12 posted on 02/24/2007 11:15:20 AM PST by Miss Didi ("Good heavens, woman, this is a war not a garden party!" Dr. Meade, Gone with the Wind)
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Hillary Vs. Rudy

equals a third party picking up a bunch of new voters.
17 posted on 02/24/2007 11:19:12 AM PST by mysterio
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If it is this case. I have got to hold my nose and vote for Rudy, because if I don't vote the same thing will happen that happened this past election. Speaker Pelosi crying Cheney was picking on her is enough. Can anybody think of a Hillary as president? Yucker!


25 posted on 02/24/2007 11:27:35 AM PST by betsyross1776 (BIG HOME DO NOT BUY YOU HAPPINESS)
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35 posted on 02/24/2007 11:31:13 AM PST by jws3sticks (Hillary can take a very long walk on a very short pier, anytime, and the sooner the better!)
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To: Blackirish

Let's change the title to:

Crap Vs. Vomit

Same false choice.


40 posted on 02/24/2007 11:35:39 AM PST by Theo (Global warming "scientists." Pro-evolution "scientists." They're both wrong.)
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I’m pro-choice. I’m pro-gay rights, Giuliani said. He was then asked whether he supports a ban on what critics call partial-birth abortions. “No, I have not supported that, and I don’t see my position on that changing,” he responded. Source: CNN.com, “Inside Politics” Dec 2, 1999 http://www.ontheissues.org/2008/Rudy_Giuliani_Abortion.htm

ANDERSON COOPER 360 DEGREES (November 14, 2006)

RUDY GIULIANI (R), FORMER MAYOR OF NEW YORK CITY: I'm pro- choice. I'm pro-gay rights.

KING: Giuliani supports a woman's right to an abortion, and back in 1999, he opposed a federal ban on late-term abortions.

GIULIANI: No, I have not supported that, and I don't see my position on that changing.

KING: Immigration could be another presidential landmine. Back in 1996, Mayor Giuliani went to federal court to challenge new federal laws requiring the city to inform the federal government about illegal immigrants.

JEFFREY: He took the side of illegal immigrants in New York City against the Republican Congress.

KING: Giuliani opposes same-sex marriage but as mayor, he supported civil unions and extending health and other benefits to gay couples. He also supported the assault weapons ban and other gun control measures opposed by the National Rifle Association.

GIULIANI: I'm in favor of gun control. I'm pro-choice.

Republican Big-Wigs Support Pro-Abortion Event in NY

Pro-abortion Governor George Pataki and New York Mayor Rudy Giuliani, who also supports unrestricted abortion, are co-chairs of the 2000 Choice Award Presentation to be held on May 30 at the St. Regis Hotel in New York City. The event is sponsored by the Republican Pro-Choice Coalition, a group that is campaigning for the removal of the pro-life plank from the Republican National Platform.


http://www.nationalreview.com/murdock/murdock200503010743.asp


45 posted on 02/24/2007 11:40:00 AM PST by narses ("Freedom is about authority." - Rudolph Giuliani)
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Hey there Blackirish! Good post. Good to see ya J

(Ya think this post will go like your other one? Huh?
LOL

46 posted on 02/24/2007 11:40:00 AM PST by Fiddlstix (Warning! This Is A Subliminal Tagline! Read it at your own risk!(Presented by TagLines R US))
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To: Blackirish

Don't want either one of them. It will be more of the same.


60 posted on 02/24/2007 11:58:37 AM PST by freekitty
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To: Blackirish

later ping


62 posted on 02/24/2007 12:00:56 PM PST by GQuagmire
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To: Blackirish; Jameison; Sabramerican; BunnySlippers; tkathy; veronica; Roccus; Jake The Goose; ...

If you would like on the Rudy ping list, please freep mail areafiftyone or post your request on the thread.

Thanks,

PKM


69 posted on 02/24/2007 12:15:33 PM PST by PhiKapMom (Broken Glass Republican -- RudyforPresident2008@yahoogroups.com or http://www.rudygforamerica.com/fo)
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To: Blackirish
Michael Barone is one of the most thoughtful, accurate, objective people who write about polls and politics.

His analysis shows why Rudy is such a strong candidate,the strongest, in fact, against Hillary.

The Dims are terrified of Rudy. They're desperate and don't know how to deal with a candidate like Rudy, so they try and smear him and trick voters into hating him.

If Rudy is the best candidate who can keep Her Heinous, Queen Hillary from claiming her throne, so be it.




STOP HILLARY NOW!


75 posted on 02/24/2007 12:35:11 PM PST by Cincinna (HILLARY & HER HINO "We are going to take things away from you for the Common Good")
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To: Blackirish
People think since the MSM is so sure Obama is going to win, and if just look back at 04, Dean was going to as well. Kerry wasn't even considered. I think most of us should know by now, the MSM haven't been able to read the public's opinion for a very long time.

I don't think either Obama or Hillary will make a "And we are going to the White house... YAAAW" shoutout. but in an effort to be more antiwar, I having a feeling Hillary is more likely yo say something that burns her most.
76 posted on 02/24/2007 12:38:41 PM PST by 007drizzt
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To: Blackirish

Hillary is hated by a large percentage of the American electorate. Literally hated, and IMO, for good reason.

Rudy, on the other hand is admired from both sides, and even though he doesn't come in as a gold star conservative would pull a lot of votes from the "anyone but Hillary" voters.

Obama would have a better chance then Hillary.


79 posted on 02/24/2007 12:42:19 PM PST by Bullish ( Reality is the best cure for delusion.)
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Rudy puts almost the whole East into play

My @ss.

NOT in the SOUTHeast(or SOUTHWEST, or much of the WEST, or flyover country).

Liberal northeastern elitist RINOs do NOT make the vast majority of Conservative Southeastern voters want to run out and support or vote for them, ESPECIALLY when they're gun-grabbibng, abortion-supporting maggots like RINO-rudy.

81 posted on 02/24/2007 12:49:58 PM PST by DocH (Gun-grabbers, you can HAVE my guns... lead first.)
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