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Texas vaccine mandate draws GOP ire
Associated Press ^ | 02/05/07 | LIZ AUSTIN PETERSON

Posted on 02/07/2007 8:46:47 AM PST by presidio9

Several key Republicans urged Gov. Rick Perry on Monday to rescind his executive order making Texas the first state to require girls to be vaccinated against the sexually transmitted virus that causes cervical cancer.

Lawmakers should have been allowed to hear from doctors, scientists and patients before the state implemented such a sweeping mandate, said state Sen. Jane Nelson, chairwoman of the health and human services committee.

"This is not an emergency," said Nelson, adding that she plans to ask Attorney General Greg Abbott for an opinion on the legality of Perry's order. "It needs to be discussed and debated."

Three other Republican lawmakers filed bills that would override the mandate, and several others were working on similar legislation.

Perry defended his decision, saying his fellow conservatives were wrong to worry that mandating the vaccine will trample parents' rights and promote premarital sex.

"Providing the HPV vaccine doesn't promote sexual promiscuity any more than providing the Hepatitis B vaccine promotes drug use," Perry said in a statement. "If the medical community developed a vaccine for lung cancer, would the same critics oppose it claiming it would encourage smoking?"

Perry has ordered the Texas Health and Human Services Commission to adopt rules requiring Merck & Co.'s new Gardasil vaccine for girls entering the sixth grade as of September 2008. The vaccine protects girls against strains of the human papillomavirus that cause most cases of cervical cancer.

Texas allows parents to opt out of inoculations by filing an affidavit objecting to the vaccine on religious or philosophical reasons, but critics say the order still interferes with parental rights.

"I don't think the government should ever presume to know better than the parents what to do with children," Republican Lt. Gov. David Dewhurst said.

Perry also directed state health authorities to make the vaccine available free to girls ages 9 to 18 who are uninsured or whose insurance does not cover vaccines. And he ordered Medicaid to offer Gardasil to women ages 19 to 21.


TOPICS: Extended News; Government; Miscellaneous; Politics/Elections; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: celebrateperversity; gardasil; hpv; merck; perry; rickperry; texas
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To: PennsylvaniaMom
"I believe it was Monday, that I happened to be home and watched 'The View' (I know, dirty job, but somebody has to)"

ACKK!! I just can't tollerate that show. "Rosie's view from the far left" is what they should call it now.

Sad, though, when a digbat like that can even spot what's wrong with this picture, and so called conservative republicans can't.

201 posted on 02/07/2007 12:23:58 PM PST by Nathan Zachary
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To: kinoxi
"Fortunately, I did my research on this well before these threads existed."

Sure you did.

Good thing you don't work for me. You'd be unemployed handing me that kind of research.

202 posted on 02/07/2007 12:26:40 PM PST by Nathan Zachary
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To: Nathan Zachary

Nice. It's always good to hear an immature response from a cocky individual. I would have fired you for your inherent stupidity as well.


203 posted on 02/07/2007 12:30:51 PM PST by kinoxi
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To: kinoxi
What's so 'imature" about it? Statement of fact.

Your "research" from all you've said on three treads have been nothing more than a recital of Merck's web page.

But that is a classic DU reponse. All that's missing is a few swear words.

204 posted on 02/07/2007 12:34:27 PM PST by Nathan Zachary
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To: Nathan Zachary
I was stunned. They actually verbalized my thoughts (as a parent--and a conservative). I guess even a stopped clocked in right twice a day...
205 posted on 02/07/2007 12:36:32 PM PST by PennsylvaniaMom (Just because you're paranoid doesn't mean they aren't out to get you...)
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To: Nathan Zachary

No, the vaccine is happening. You choose to oppose it with very little in the way of reasonable facts. I like your little DU comment included in the anecdote BTW.


206 posted on 02/07/2007 12:38:25 PM PST by kinoxi
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To: Tax-chick

It would be interesting if your Doctor's staff did blood pressure readings on the waiting patients before and after watching The View...LOL


207 posted on 02/07/2007 12:38:40 PM PST by PennsylvaniaMom (Just because you're paranoid doesn't mean they aren't out to get you...)
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To: MeanWestTexan
Yes, and if you read the regulations, one of them is "I object for reasons of conscience" --- e.g., any reason you want. (The other box is for medical reasons.)

Not so simple. I don't see where they allow you to pick which immunization you can object to.

RULE §97.62 Exclusions from Compliance

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Exclusions from compliance are allowable on an individual basis for medical contraindications, reasons of conscience, including a religious belief, and active duty with the armed forces of the United States. Children and students in these categories must submit evidence for exclusion from compliance as specified in the Health and Safety Code, §161.004(d), Health and Safety Code, §161.0041, Education Code, Chapter 38, Education Code, Chapter 51, and the Human Resources Code, Chapter 42.

(1) To claim an exclusion for medical reasons, the child or student must present a statement signed by the child's physician (M.D. or D.O.), duly registered and licensed to practice medicine in the United States who has examined the child, in which it is stated that, in the physician's opinion, the vaccine required is medically contraindicated or poses a significant risk to the health and well-being of the child or any member of the child's household. Unless it is written in the statement that a lifelong condition exists, the exemption statement is valid for only one year from the date signed by the physician.

(2) To claim an exclusion for reasons of conscience, including a religious belief, a signed affidavit must be presented by the child's parent or guardian, stating that the child's parent or guardian declines vaccinations for reasons of conscience, including because of the person's religious beliefs. The affidavit will be valid for a two-year period. The child, who has not received the required immunizations for reasons of conscience, including religious beliefs, may be excluded from school in times of emergency or epidemic declared by the commissioner of public health.

(A) A person claiming exclusion for reasons of conscience, including a religious belief, from a required immunization may only obtain the affidavit form by submitting a written request to the department. The request must include the following:

(i) full name of child;

(ii) child's date of birth (month/day/year);

(B) Written requests must be submitted through the United States Postal Service (or other commercial carrier), by facsimile, or by hand delivery to the department's Bureau of Immunization and Pharmacy Support, 1100 West 49th Street, Austin, Texas 78756.

(C) Upon request, one affidavit form for each child will be mailed unless otherwise specified (shall not exceed a maximum of five forms per child).

(D) The department shall not maintain a record of the names of individuals who request an affidavit and shall return the original request with the forms requested.

(3) To claim an exclusion for armed forces, persons who can prove that they are serving on active duty with the armed forces of the United States are exempted from the requirements in these sections.

208 posted on 02/07/2007 12:39:24 PM PST by DejaJude
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To: PennsylvaniaMom

LoL! I'll bet you felt a little bewildered for the rest of the day. Pinched yourself to make sure it wasn't a dream? Checked to see if you had the correct political membership card?


209 posted on 02/07/2007 12:45:56 PM PST by Nathan Zachary
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Oh wait, I knopw why she said that. It's Texas, and a Republican. She had no choice but to disagree. This is Rosie, after all, she hates anything that smells right.


210 posted on 02/07/2007 12:48:07 PM PST by Nathan Zachary
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To: kinoxi
"No, the vaccine is happening. You choose to oppose it with very little in the way of reasonable facts. "

Did you have a labotomy recently? Trouble remembering what you read?

We'll see if this is "happening" or not. I doubt it. I smell tar heating up ...

211 posted on 02/07/2007 12:53:19 PM PST by Nathan Zachary
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To: Nathan Zachary

You oppose the vaccine. Correct?


212 posted on 02/07/2007 12:55:40 PM PST by kinoxi
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To: kinoxi

what does "the vaccine is happening" mean?


213 posted on 02/07/2007 12:57:05 PM PST by Puddleglum
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To: kinoxi

I oppose manditory immunization of this untested, unproven drug.

it does not, by definition, meet the requirements to be called a 'vaccine'.


214 posted on 02/07/2007 1:00:53 PM PST by Nathan Zachary
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To: DejaJude

"I don't see where they allow you to pick which immunization you can object to."

No, you can pick and choose.

It is a simple matter of going to your private doctor and getting the shots you want and not getting the shots you don't want.

The only time that becomes an issue is if you are getting "free" shots from the school nurse -- then it is all or nothing.


215 posted on 02/07/2007 1:00:53 PM PST by MeanWestTexan (Kol Hakavod Lezahal)
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To: Puddleglum
his executive order making Texas the first state to require girls to be vaccinated against the sexually transmitted virus that causes cervical cancer.

It means what it means.
216 posted on 02/07/2007 1:02:51 PM PST by kinoxi
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To: Paleo Conservative

Or a bullseye...


217 posted on 02/07/2007 1:04:49 PM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: Nathan Zachary

Okay, if you think it needs more testing I cannot argue with that. I disagree but respect your opinion.


218 posted on 02/07/2007 1:05:05 PM PST by kinoxi
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To: Nathan Zachary
Yep, although most of those contracted HPV at a younger age.
That's where you are wrong.


No, he's right, actually. Ninety percent of cervical cancers come from dysplasias caused by HPV. It takes years (or even decades) for these dysplasias the develop into cancer. It is these abnormal cells that the pathologist looks for when doing a pap smear. Therefore, most cases of cervical cancer involve an HPV infection at a younger age (it's the only way HPV can cause cervical cancer).

It is also worth noting that girls under the age of 18 are at an elevated risk of acquiring a cervical cancer-causing HPV infection than older women. Although it will take years to develop cervical cancer from an infection, a teenager is more likely to get HPV from sexual activity because the cells of her cervix are of a less-mature type.
219 posted on 02/07/2007 1:05:26 PM PST by EKrusling
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To: MeanWestTexan
It is a simple matter of going to your private doctor and getting the shots you want and not getting the shots you don't want.
The only time that becomes an issue is if you are getting "free" shots from the school nurse -- then it is all or nothing.

Oh, I see. He's only going to be experimenting on the poor. I can just see the class action law suits coming down the pike.

220 posted on 02/07/2007 1:06:44 PM PST by DejaJude
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