Skip to comments.Rudy’s a No-Go
Posted on 02/06/2007 10:43:27 AM PST by ElkGroveDan
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You nailed...no, you tenderized it!
I don't believe we can successfully legislate morality at the ballot box, therefore I will focus on a candidate's positions on economic development, homeland security, and crime prevention above all other factors. Yes it would be nice if the candidate was against abortion in general, but I'd accept a compromise of being against partial-birth abortion and allowing some parental notification. Politics is the art of compromise.
Voting for Rudy is not going to change their conservative views. Rudy's surging popularity can be attributed to one thing......... people are putting the war on terror as their number one issue.
Don't be fooled. Rudy was engaging in double-talk. Nothing more. Rudy maybe a conservative by NYCity standards. In the real world, Rudy is still a liberal.
So when Rudy spoke out against single women having babies out of wedlock and kids growing up without fathers, that was straight from the liberal playbook. Gotcha.
"Like I said, right now I am working hard for Duncan Hunter, but I if Rudy wins the nomination, I will vote for him."
Most likely I will too, IF he gets the nomination. I like Rudy too, but I will not vote for someone because I like him. Feelings can be deceiving and blind us from facts. Yep, that is my opinion all right, just as you have yours.
BTW, I'm glad you are working hard to get a conservative nominated! I might support him too after I see who all gets in during the next few months. Too early for me yet.
The defense strategy, apologist technique for this sort of thing is reminiscent of a Romney backing:
"Oh, that was back in the 90s, a long, long, long time ago, before people shopped online and before 24 came on the air. Those guys have changed now. They aren't like that anymore."
I just don't know how someone's core values can change so drastically past the age of mid 30s. Perhaps I'm getting old but the mid to late 90s seems like yesterday.
Sure he said, "Marriage should be between a man and a woman" but he was also for recognizing domestic partners. His stand on gun control troubled me. As for illegals, he tried some double talk but essentially admitted he is against the fence and for amnesty - which means he will be weak and ineffective on WOT.
Then there are other things in his past that voters will remember:
*he actually recommended Kerik for top national security position
*he had a chance during the last election to undermine Hillary, quite possibly defeat her, yet he avoided running against her - appearing scared of her.
*his support of illegal aliens in NYC
Same here. Every primary. Unfortunately, our primary is so late that it doesn't make much difference. My vote will definitely be for Rudy, though.
Rush L. has quite a following in this country. Conservative radio dominates AM. Liberal talk radio is almost invisible , or should I say inaudible. Free Republic has the most participants of any website in its genre. Nevertheless, the traditional views of Americans seem to be losing at every point.
We are being overwhelmed by homosexual activism, abortion on demand, justification for a massive illegal invasion, surrender to terrorists, etc.
I was fooled into voting for Bush Sr. and W. I have trouble deciding which one is more treacherous. I suppose G. H. W. Bush gadding about with Clinton really decides that one. Any leader of any persuasion who can befriend that criminal is void of conscience.
I would vote for Rudy against Lady Macbeth, but count me as one who has been left in the cold by the GOP. The RINO Senate is made up of capons and geldings.
If we do not get a peaceful revolution in the GOP, we will have a complete collapse into Left wing activism as the norm, Mexifornia as the ideal socialist state.
Of course we legislate morality all the time. Stealing, killing, slavery, pedophilia, rape; those are all "morality" issues. Shall we ignore them too? Or should we ignore just the "morality issues" you don't care about?
In your dream, pal. No Republican can win without the conservative southern GOP vote. Facts is facts!
There is no morality after the SCOTUS gave us the Webster ruling, which went against its doctrine of infallibility, overturning the previous George sodomy case. Given the sweet mystery of life at last I've found you ruling, no aperture is safe, no morality is legitimate.
You are correct, but the trends are against you.
Regarding your tagline - Condi 2008.
You realize that she is pro-choice? Does that affect your core values assessment or does it only apply to some people?
I simply posed a question. And you do realize by socon, I meant social conservative, not southern conservative?
I am much more concerned with our nations security than I am with Rudy having breakfast with lesbos. New York has a very large gay population. These people vote. Do you think its smart for a mayor to totally ignore shuch a big voting block? I don't.
You can be on my debating team any time.
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